The best latest magnetic cartridge for Garrard RC turntable?

[Jg014]

the best latest magnetic cartridge for Garrard RC turntable?

Hi forum friends, all have good day. While I have previously viewed here in the forum, I open a new thread to query in your experience what is the best magnetic cartridge current stereo to place on a turntable Garrard RC 98. It currently brings cartridge crystal mono brand Garrard, which was the original brand that made ​​him the turntable. I would like to change it for current magnetic cartridge to play my records, as I pass this mono to stereo turntable. It can be any brand that you feel better, stanton, shure, ortofon, etc.. That same cartridge is compatible to play recordings of 33 and 45 rpm records as of 78 rpm. Since, as you will know, equalization recording 78 rpm recordings is not the same for recordings of 33 and 45 rpm. Any information you can provide will be appreciated. regards

 

[KentTeffeteller]

You will be limited about your options on that Garrard. 3 grams is as light as you can track on that arm, and what the trip mechanism on that changer will handle. You are looking at options like Shure SC 35-C or the M 44-C for this changer.

 

[Jg014]

You will be limited about your options on that Garrard. 3 grams is as light as you can track on that arm, and what the trip mechanism on that changer will handle. You are looking at options like Shure SC 35-C or the M 44-C for this changer.

Hello KentTeffeteller, you thank you very much. I was watching, and both models are currently hard to get where I live because of blockages in imported products. The model I can get is the SC 35-C, but i was watching, and that capsule is oriented model for disc jockeys, equalization and giving him a capsule that model is not quite to my liking because prioritize frequencies serious and give little interest to middle and high frequencies. Regarding grarrard turntables I've seen with this cartridge M44c and apparently worked well, the problem is that I find the capsule model to buy. How have alternative Stanton 500, which as far as I am informed, is for vinyl 33 and 45 rpm and 78 rpm old records because Stanton produced two models for this stylus, one for 33 and another for 45 rpm and 78 rpm.

 

[pdm4606]

Go old

How about an old Shure M-7 or M-3?
These were used on Garrards for years. They seem plentiful and styli are easy to get.
Don't dis old stuff.

Paul

 

[gadget73]

33 and 45 rpm use the same stylus. 78 uses something else.

Stanton 500 or Pickering V15 can be had with a stylus that runs 3-7 grams, but they are not in current production. Generic reproductions of the styluses generally are not very good. I like Stanton cartridges, but its hard to recommend them since its hard to get a good stylus for them anymore.


I would have to second the SC35 or SC44 suggestion. The "dj" thing usually just means it tracks heavy. It doesn't mean that it won't reproduce high frequencies.

 

[Jg014]

How about an old Shure M-7 or M-3?
These were used on Garrards for years. They seem plentiful and styli are easy to get.
Don't dis old stuff.

Paul

Hi Paul, good night. Locally I do not find the models you mention Shure cartridges. Alternatively, I can get is the M70B Shure model. Previously had that cartridge, I've tried on a Pioneer turntable that I have, but I did not like that little treble response, a comparison of the current cartridge to use this turntable that has good treble gain and enough brightness. As far as I have understood, the M70B cartridge also supports 78 rpm recordings by placing the corresponding stylus.

 

[Gang-Twanger]

33 and 45 rpm use the same stylus. 78 uses something else.

Stanton 500 or Pickering V15 can be had with a stylus that runs 3-7 grams, but they are not in current production. Generic reproductions of the styluses generally are not very good. I like Stanton cartridges, but its hard to recommend them since its hard to get a good stylus for them anymore.


I would have to second the SC35 or SC44 suggestion. The "dj" thing usually just means it tracks heavy. It doesn't mean that it won't reproduce high frequencies.

OEM Stanton/Pickering stylus (styli) can be found new in the US through V-M Audio Enthusiasts (Gary), however, that might not be possible for someone in the Far East or other areas with importing issues. Not sure what else would work. I had thought about the M44 or one of the single-digit Shure models myself. Also, there is that GE VMR-something-or-other (Can't remember the exact model, but it has VMR in it, I think... It was used on them a lot if I remember correctly). I have an RC88/4 that I plan to restore and use on old '50's and earlier records and maybe 78's. The RC's are supposed to be the bee's knees for old mono records, plus I think they're rather-cool-looking when restored (I also recently inherited an old, full-sized, crank-style Victrola that used to be my grandparents' back in the day). I want to go 78-style eventually and hear what those 30's and '40's musicians REALLY sounded like.

 

[Jg014]

33 and 45 rpm use the same stylus. 78 uses something else.

Stanton 500 or Pickering V15 can be had with a stylus that runs 3-7 grams, but they are not in current production. Generic reproductions of the styluses generally are not very good. I like Stanton cartridges, but its hard to recommend them since its hard to get a good stylus for them anymore.


I would have to second the SC35 or SC44 suggestion. The "dj" thing usually just means it tracks heavy. It doesn't mean that it won't reproduce high frequencies.

Hello, good evening. Both Stanton and Pickering V15 500 I find availability to purchase. Stanton 500 I have good references, now get the MKII model. About Pickering not know because I never Use a cartridge that mark, but some people have recommended me. What I do not like cartridges designed exclusively for DJs, is that the weight you must give the capsule is exesive for my liking. I usually use 1.2 to 1.5 grams in headshell , when capsules designed to scratch and stuff recommend 3.5 to 5 grams but not going to use for scratch, besides giving you more gain than the bass mid and treble. My point is on the turntables and audiophile home, far from the world of the 'dj' side.

 

[Jg014]

33 and 45 rpm use the same stylus. 78 uses something else.

Stanton 500 or Pickering V15 can be had with a stylus that runs 3-7 grams, but they are not in current production. Generic reproductions of the styluses generally are not very good. I like Stanton cartridges, but its hard to recommend them since its hard to get a good stylus for them anymore.


I would have to second the SC35 or SC44 suggestion. The "dj" thing usually just means it tracks heavy. It doesn't mean that it won't reproduce high frequencies.

Regarding needles cartridges in my country still get original parts of Stanton, for there are only generic pickering, same for shure. Obviously the quality is lower -. What if there is genuine parts in Ortofon, which I also produced a capsule for 78 rpm

 

[pdm4606]

limited choices

Hi Paul, good night. Locally I do not find the models you mention Shure cartridges. Alternatively, I can get is the M70B Shure model. Previously had that cartridge, I've tried on a Pioneer turntable that I have, but I did not like that little treble response, a comparison of the current cartridge to use this turntable that has good treble gain and enough brightness. As far as I have understood, the M70B cartridge also supports 78 rpm recordings by placing the corresponding stylus.

Your choices are more limited than I thought. I don't know what to tell you.
If you could change the cartridge loading in the preamp up or down on an old Shure it might work. That is one reason Garrard had a niche years ago and the cartridge companies followed making cartridges that were lets say,"more robust". When the plain TT came along and became popular they made different stuff to follow.
Actually 2 different worlds between changers and plain TT's.

Paul

 

[KentTeffeteller]

The Shure M 70B is too compliant for that arm. You will be limited to running lower compliance conical styli at 3-5 gram tracking forces in that changer. The Shure SC 35-C also has a 78 stylus option. Stanton styli have not been reproduced with any quality by aftermarket vendors. This changer was around 5 years ahead of changer technology which could handle higher compliance cartridges and track at lighter weights reliably. Which was introduced by the Dual 1009 and Garrard Lab 80 lines.

 

[gadget73]

That one definitely needs at least 3 grams. A common magnetic cartridge when that RC98 was new was the GE RPX. THose ran somewhere around 7 grams. The mechanism just will not operate down at 1-2 grams. I run a GE RPX on my RC88/4. It works very well, but its a mono cartridge and I use it for 78 rpm records mostly.

 

[KentTeffeteller]

The GE VR II was the best mono MI cartridge made for sane money when that Garrard was new. And what most audiophiles used then or they used the Pickerings. Only problem is the VR II is strictly mono only. And that is pre-1968 mono only at that. The Shure SC 35C is the modern day M3D. It is cheap, common, and the best option for those Garrards. If he must have a Garrard which can track at 2 grams, with 78 capability, he will need a Laboratory Series Type A or A 70 model. Those can handle 2 grams, I'd still stick with a medium compliance conical at very best there. The Lab 80 would be great for him save for no 78 (I have the impression he wants 78 capability)

 

[Jg014]

--UPDATE--UPDATE--UPDATE--UPDATE--

After searching for several months without finding anything, suddenly appeared several models of Shure cartridge to purchase. They are all old models out of stock no longer manufactured. Below I leave the details of each model in question listed. I have several in sight, but you will be able to say in his experience which model is best for playing a 78 rpm record on a turntable garrard.

M70EJ
ME-70b
M44e (OLD MODEL)
M75cs
M44-C
M95edm
M75-6s
M55E

 

[KentTeffeteller]

M 44-C works. M 70 variants too high compliance as are M 75 and M 95. M 55 too light tracking. And you need the N 44 78 stylus or aftermarket for 78.