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The right channel of the National Panasonic SU-3400 amplifier gets hot.

Hollow_Man

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Hello everyone.

I definitely have a problem with this amplifier, when I bought it it was very neglected, it was reassembled with parts from other appliances, it had 4 diodes tied together as a power supply, etc. So I started to repair and replace everything (or almost everything) that was not done properly, coming to work very well, its sound was quite good and without distortion, I used it regularly until it started having problems, the first what happened was that, when pressing the Main button, the left channel sounded with a strong hum, at the same time the pair of TO-3 transistors and the 0.47 Ω cement resistors heated up, It took me a long time to realize that a TO-18 transistor had a broken leg and that was what was causing the problem. Unfortunately, during the review process with the multimeter, a 100 Ω resistor on the right channel turned red hot, annihilating the pair of power amplification transistors and caused the current problem.

I replaced the TO-3 even amps, the 100 Ω resistor was replaced, I checked the soldering of all the resistors including the 0.47 Ω cement rectangular resistors, but the problem was already present.

As soon as I turn on the amp:

-the transistors of power amplifier overheat including the radiator.
-White rectangular 0.47 Ω resistors get hot too
-the pair transistors of the driver with heat sink the same
-a little sound like a fly coming out of the amplifier without speakers
-the 60v with which the driver worked was reduced to 54v
-a zone of the driver with several resistances reduced its ohms.

All this on the right channel because the left channel works fine (although it sounds very bad)

What I have done so far is:

-i removed the resistors with reduced Ohm (all work fine when they are not in the circuit)
-I removed the thermistor (I replaced it with the one in the left channel and the problem persists)
-I removed a variable resistor (without that resistor the values of the resistors returned to normal but fell when I put the replacement)
-I checked the transistors (no problem, all ok)
-I checked the electrolytic capacitors (they work)
-I disconnected the driver from the power supply (the values return to 60v)

Right now I can't think of what else to do, a little help would be useful, I upload the images of the manual and some photos of the amplifier. Thanks
 

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a little sound like a fly coming out of the amplifier without speakers

Sounds like the amplifier might be oscillating. Do you have an oscilloscope?
I don't have an oscilloscope, but it will be an excuse to get one.

Could the whole problem be due to parasitic oscillation?
 
If an amplifier breaks into oscillation at a high enough frequency beyond the designed range, you bet it will cause overheating.

Doug
 
If an amplifier breaks into oscillation at a high enough frequency beyond the designed range, you bet it will cause overheating.

Doug
Thanks doug and thanks ryuuoh.

In the instruction manual I saw this alignment procedure. Is it what I should do with the oscilloscope or is it another procedure?5.jpg
 
Usually, what causes an amp to break into oscillation is wiring/shielding not dressed as originally designed, like power supply rail wring being too long or routed incorrectly. My Heathkit AA-29 amplifiers have spiral shielding around the relatively long supply rail wires to the output amplifiers and that must be there or the amps will oscillate at a very high frequency and overheat the amp. boards.

Of course, you do need an oscilloscope to see the oscillation since you can't ear it.

Doug
 
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