Ok got it, thank you. But the armboard looks like its slightly too big since its going over from the silver plate to the black plate? Sorry again for not knowing the right names of all the parts.
Thinking of getting my first Thorens...
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Blue Shadow
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If you look at pics of the TD-160 you will see the armboard is raised and doesn't interfere. It is larger so the SME cutout and armmounting plate will fit. The ad says factory installed, I ain't gonna argue with them.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
If you look at SME arms on the 160 you will see the arm slot straight to the front or angled toward the platter. If you look at the 125 you will see the slot pointing toward the spindle.
All of these can be correct. The limited area on the 160 means it won't allow the option to point at the pivot.
Now I know you have signed up at vinylengine and downloaded three documents a day about these chunks of gear, the SME and the TD. Even the Shure should have some docs in the files.
Read through those and see if you understand setting up the tonearm. It is different from other tonearms with slotted headshells and fixed mounting locations.
All of these can be correct. The limited area on the 160 means it won't allow the option to point at the pivot.
Now I know you have signed up at vinylengine and downloaded three documents a day about these chunks of gear, the SME and the TD. Even the Shure should have some docs in the files.
Read through those and see if you understand setting up the tonearm. It is different from other tonearms with slotted headshells and fixed mounting locations.
Allright. Did it but the thing is that on the one I m
Cheers, I see what you mean, I´ll have a look around
Cheers, I see what you mean, I´ll have a look around
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Lenny, when you get the table post some pics and answer some questions. No reason to ask em if you go a different direction. So let us know.
Absolutly, I will.
The guy is away until the 12th this month so cant do anything before that date.
The guy is away until the 12th this month so cant do anything before that date.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Oh Yes, you can!! Time to do some Homework!!
You can research those pieces on vinylengine and theanalogdept so you know what you are getting into and have an idea how really good that table is. That way you can dream about the unit and the inclusion of it in your rig for future enjoyment all while learning the basis so you can hit the ground running when you go get it. First thing to learn is how to transport that finely tuned machine in your transport method of choice so that it is not damaged during that trip.
1) remove
2) lock the
3) fix the or remove the and transport separately
4) lower the
and maybe a couple more.
Thanks for the update.
=D
Started doing that a couple of weeks ago. Been drooling over this a while.
Im writing up a word doc with some history, info, possible issues, cost of upgrade pieces. And watching alot of youtube packing, upgrade, service videos.
Anything to give me more meat on the bone so I can maybe haggle it down to 500€.
He said he´s open to negotiating the price if there is fair arguments, and I know Im a novice in this area so trying my best.
Started doing that a couple of weeks ago. Been drooling over this a while.
Im writing up a word doc with some history, info, possible issues, cost of upgrade pieces. And watching alot of youtube packing, upgrade, service videos.
Anything to give me more meat on the bone so I can maybe haggle it down to 500€.
He said he´s open to negotiating the price if there is fair arguments, and I know Im a novice in this area so trying my best.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Look up the prices of the items in Europe.
The tonearm verify it is not the S version, the cheaper one
Talk about wanting to use moving coil cartridges and that the SME is a very low mass arm and not really good for that.
Verify the stylus is a true Shure part or a Jico SAS. Don't know em enough to know if some of the others are as good as these.
Then pay him the 650 he wants. Don't negotiate your way out of a fair deal. But if you open at 500 he might go for 600. Maybe an older gentleman would help out a younger guy get going. Maybe you can get some records thrown in with the deal. See if he has any of the accessories that come with the arm...weights and such, box, packing materials and of course the set up materials so you can move it to a new table if you want. Nothing like having the original materials to install the arm properly.
If he is getting out of vinyl, maybe he has some cleaning gear for the stylus or records.
Lots to discuss as you work on the price.
This table isn't going to need shipping is it?
The tonearm verify it is not the S version, the cheaper one
Talk about wanting to use moving coil cartridges and that the SME is a very low mass arm and not really good for that.
Verify the stylus is a true Shure part or a Jico SAS. Don't know em enough to know if some of the others are as good as these.
Then pay him the 650 he wants. Don't negotiate your way out of a fair deal. But if you open at 500 he might go for 600. Maybe an older gentleman would help out a younger guy get going. Maybe you can get some records thrown in with the deal. See if he has any of the accessories that come with the arm...weights and such, box, packing materials and of course the set up materials so you can move it to a new table if you want. Nothing like having the original materials to install the arm properly.
If he is getting out of vinyl, maybe he has some cleaning gear for the stylus or records.
Lots to discuss as you work on the price.
This table isn't going to need shipping is it?
Very good advise here on all counts, Will make a check list and see how it goes.
Like you say, lots of things the play into effect in a deal. Thank you so much again =)
Ps. it dosnt need shipping.
Like you say, lots of things the play into effect in a deal. Thank you so much again =)
Ps. it dosnt need shipping.
Update:
Change of plans. Just bought it after a visit for 550€ and he delivers it to my house.
Really really nice guy who use to work in a hi-fi store in the 80s. So me trying to look like I had his knowledge was absolutly no point so I was just completly straight with him and I think he liked that.
Thank you all so much for all the info and help!
Change of plans. Just bought it after a visit for 550€ and he delivers it to my house.
Really really nice guy who use to work in a hi-fi store in the 80s. So me trying to look like I had his knowledge was absolutly no point so I was just completly straight with him and I think he liked that.
Thank you all so much for all the info and help!
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Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Your welcome, Lenny.
Curious if the bottom panel is thin 3mm-5mm hardboard or if it is a 12mm thick medium density hardboard?
I see so many cues to the TD-160 Super I have that make me think this is a nice table, updated from what the standard Thorens 160 is.
But it sounds good doesn't it? And you got a deal. Well done.
Curious if the bottom panel is thin 3mm-5mm hardboard or if it is a 12mm thick medium density hardboard?
I see so many cues to the TD-160 Super I have that make me think this is a nice table, updated from what the standard Thorens 160 is.
But it sounds good doesn't it? And you got a deal. Well done.
I think it has the thin bottom. He said everything was original from the factory, the only thing he´s done is to get a new stylus and clean out and refill it with new thin oil.
It even had the original plastic hinges to the dustcover that usually is broken off.
It sounded fantastic but he had a big set-up and speakers that was taller than me.
It was in the front of his dream man cave / studio with loads of guitars, other vintage hi-fi stuff, he had at least 4 other Thorens, old sewing machines and a door out to his garage with 6 classical cars. He said he was into it because of the fine tuned mechanics and that he wasnt an audiophile in the classical sense.
Super happy.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Once you get settled in using your new plattenspieler you can drop into the turntable forum and add your post to the Thorens Owners thread.
Are you going to upgrade it as you go? If the bottom is 3-5mm hardboard a nice thick heavy bottom plate is an easy piece to make. But all that is over on theanalogdept.
Are you going to upgrade it as you go? If the bottom is 3-5mm hardboard a nice thick heavy bottom plate is an easy piece to make. But all that is over on theanalogdept.
The plan is to upgraded it with a new plinth like this one, but its down the pipeline.
http://www.berrie.eu/black-high-gloss-plinth-thorens-td160-mk1/
totem
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Great looking original table a big bonus is it arrived in 1 piece which many do not.
A little more information regarding your arm, since it is the less optioned version it does not come with
the fluid filled trough for some of the lower compliant cartridges but your Shure suites it very well.
Additionally the arm tube included [that is removable] is the updated late version having a
different geometry than the original. So if looking for alignment spec's use the revised data since
your arm tube is slightly longer.
Congratulations.
A little more information regarding your arm, since it is the less optioned version it does not come with
the fluid filled trough for some of the lower compliant cartridges but your Shure suites it very well.
Additionally the arm tube included [that is removable] is the updated late version having a
different geometry than the original. So if looking for alignment spec's use the revised data since
your arm tube is slightly longer.
Congratulations.
If I change the plinth Id make sure to stow away the original plinth somewhere safe so incase I sell it in the future the original is an option.
Thx for the advise