This Place Is A Mess!

[pioneervato]

Instead of creating new threads of just about everything under the sun why not just start a thread on a "Theme Of The Week" or something like that. Put some actual thought into your photos instead of just posting for the sake of posting. Some of you don't even crop when the image is screaming to be cropped. It's really a simple thing that can improve your image tremendously.

 

[Erik Tracy]

Instead of creating new threads of just about everything under the sun why not just start a thread on a "Theme Of The Week" or something like that. Put some actual thought into your photos instead of just posting for the sake of posting. Some of you don't even crop when the image is screaming to be cropped. It's really a simple thing that can improve your image tremendously.

Geez....sorry....guess I won't post here anymore then - don't want to offend or upset anyone....:sigh:

 

[marantzfan]

Instead of creating new threads of just about everything under the sun why not just start a thread on a "Theme Of The Week" or something like that. Put some actual thought into your photos instead of just posting for the sake of posting. Some of you don't even crop when the image is screaming to be cropped. It's really a simple thing that can improve your image tremendously.

Thank you Jesse. Someone needed to say it. :yes:

 

[Wigwam Jones]

Too much caffeine?

 

[Brett a]

Some of the folks who post in the photography forums here really make me not want to get into photography---or at least not share it here if I do.

I've heard of "grammar Nazis"...but didn't know there were "photo Nazis" too. ---As if looking at someone's uncropped photo was a hardship.

I got put-off by a sentiment in the portraits thread too until someone came in to say the photos i was enjoying most weren't legitimate portraits.

I would never post in the photo threads here now. But maybe that is the desired outcome.

(Is this sub-forum even moderated?)

 

[tybrad]

Instead of creating new threads of just about everything under the sun why not just start a thread on a "Theme Of The Week" or something like that. Put some actual thought into your photos instead of just posting for the sake of posting. Some of you don't even crop when the image is screaming to be cropped. It's really a simple thing that can improve your image tremendously.

Well, I tried to bring some sense of sanity and organization to the Photo Assignment debacle (that actually drove you out for a bit, as I recall)
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=461435

and tried a theme
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=461451

but nothing. I don't think that's what the crowd wants.

 

[ConradH]

It's not usually an issue for me, since I don't have high speed access and most people post stupidly large images that I'll never see. There's no reason for an image intended for on-screen display to be larger than the screen and megabytes in size. There's also something called compression that can be used to advantage ;-)

The most warped record I've ever purchased- NIB! I don't need to see images larger than this and why waste the bandwidth?

 

[trhee]

The only problem is everyone doesn't use the same monitor with the same resolution.

The image that you put up as an example is kind of smallish on my 27" iMac and personally prefer looking at larger images. I usually post pics that are 1024 pixels wide which for me is a good size compromise.

It's not usually an issue for me, since I don't have high speed access and most people post stupidly large images that I'll never see. There's no reason for an image intended for on-screen display to be larger than the screen and megabytes in size. There's also something called compression that can be used to advantage ;-)

The most warped record I've ever purchased- NIB! I don't need to see images larger than this and why waste the bandwidth?

 

[ConradH]

27 freaking inches, what, do you live in the 24th century or something! Next you'll tell me you've got more than 2 meg of memory.

 

[Wigwam Jones]

It's not usually an issue for me, since I don't have high speed access and most people post stupidly large images that I'll never see. There's no reason for an image intended for on-screen display to be larger than the screen and megabytes in size. There's also something called compression that can be used to advantage ;-)

JPG images are generally compressed. And no one knows what screen resolution everyone else is using. So what appears huge on one screen is nearly too tiny to see on another. That's kind of the way it goes.

I'll try to keep the resolution down to something popular in the Compuserve / AOL days for those who aren't up to speed yet. :thmbsp:

 

[Wigwam Jones]

The only problem is everyone doesn't use the same monitor with the same resolution.

The image that you put up as an example is kind of smallish on my 27" iMac and personally prefer looking at larger images. I usually post pics that are 1024 pixels wide which for me is a good size compromise.

It's not just the size of monitor. One can set resolution on smaller monitors to higher resolution in many cases (except the really old ones). I'm having coffee at the breakfast table right now, using my netbook which has something like a 10 inch screen, but currently set to 1024 x 600. Time was when a screen this small would have been set to 640 x 480 or smaller. If one is still using such settings, then images that are say 1600 wide are going to run WAY off the screen, no matter how large the screen is.

 

[tybrad]

Now, having said that what I did, I do believe that there are things posted that could use some form of improvement. But adults want to say that "my _____________ is good enough for me and therefore, by definition, is good" (and the sentiment has been verbalized quite regularly here in audio, and in photo). I despise that attitude! So yes, there is room for anyone to improve, but you saw how far THAT got in the original photo assignment thread that you were unofficially nominated to mediate. So trying to throttle the forum will likely meet the same fate (already has begun!).

 

[chicks]

Well, PV, you, Michaelj, and one or two others here have pro-level skills. I really admire your work, and would actually invite your constructive criticim when I post thoughtless, uncropped photos. Unfortunately, being left-brained, I honestly don't know which ones they are. All of them?

 

[ConradH]

OK, here's a nice tuning capacitor that I think is plenty big enough, but still small enough to load fast even on my dial-up, under 200k. Big enough for most, or not so much?

 

[pioneervato]

Now, having said that what I did, I do believe that there are things posted that could use some form of improvement. But adults want to say that "my _____________ is good enough for me and therefore, by definition, is good" (and the sentiment has been verbalized quite regularly here in audio, and in photo). I despise that attitude! So yes, there is room for anyone to improve, but you saw how far THAT got in the original photo assignment thread that you were unofficially nominated to mediate. So trying to throttle the forum will likely meet the same fate (already has begun!).

And I would have helped and I have tried at different times but I don't think anybody was really interested one way or another. Lots of great suggestions about improving have been given here by many members who frequent the camera forum but it has mostly fallen on deaf ears. Lots of people here with the background to help and many have but it only works if people actually give the suggestions a try.

Being a good photographer is no different than being a good musician, etc. It takes effort, practice, and patience. Maybe it's the generation I grew up in but it seems too many now look for the quick fix and/or instant gratification to everything they do instead of taking the time to study and improve. And why would anybody not want to improve?

 

[tybrad]

And I would have helped and I have tried at different times but I don't think anybody was really interested one way or another. Lots of great suggestions about improving have been given here by many members who frequent the camera forum but it has mostly fallen on deaf ears. Lots of people here with the background to help and many have but it only works if people actually give the suggestions a try.

Being a good photographer is no different than being a good musician, etc. It takes effort, practice, and patience. Maybe it's the generation I grew up in but it seems too many now look for the quick fix and/or instant gratification to everything they do instead of taking the time to study and improve. And why would anybody not want to improve?

Could not have said it better! Thanks Jess.

On another note, how's your school year been so far?

 

[MichaelJ]

I for one would be happy to assist anyone. I'm sure Jess and others feel the same way. All you need to do is ask. However, I don't care to offer my opinion unless someone asks for help. Surely all of us can use a critique from time to time, me included. Unfortunately I've seen things get ugly in a hurry. It's important to be tactful, be kind and remember that TONE can't be read in a post. Something can easily be interpreted as being snakry. I love photography. I'm sure anyone who posts here does. We can all learn from each other. Maybe all we need to do is ask.

 

[Tim64]

Seriously People, If someone posting a uncropped photo that's on the large side is bugging some of you that bad maybe you need to take a step back and a deep breath and ask your self, Why is this bugging me so much. Lighten up people and stop obsessing
for petes sake and relax and enjoy the site and stop complaining. BTW I do crop my photo's but I wont dictate to others to do the same.

 

[pioneervato]

I was not referring to over sized images, just images that needed to be cropped (among other things) to improve the photo. Others were complaining about images too large for their screen's resolution or slow internet connection.

 

[MichaelJ]

Some of the folks who post in the photography forums here really make me not want to get into photography---or at least not share it here if I do.

I've heard of "grammar Nazis"...but didn't know there were "photo Nazis" too. ---As if looking at someone's uncropped photo was a hardship.

I got put-off by a sentiment in the portraits thread too until someone came in to say the photos i was enjoying most weren't legitimate portraits.

I would never post in the photo threads here now. But maybe that is the desired outcome.

(Is this sub-forum even moderated?)

Brett, I surely don't feel that Jess is anything close to being a "photo Nazi". He's a first class photographer and educator who is frustrated by the fact that some of us just don't seem to be willing to learn anything. Pointing a digital camera and clicking the shutter will result in a snap shot. Nothing more. If that's all that's wanted, fine, but if the desire is to have something with IMPACT, something that means something, then it takes much more. Jess and a few others have tried but the lessons and suggestions seem to have fallen on deaf ears.

If you have any interest in photography, PLEASE by all means post something!