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Thorens TD166 mkii vs Thorens TD126 mkiii

dundurnish

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Hi folks,

I was wondering about what the audiokarma community might opine about my quandary. I suddenly own two Thorens turntables:

* a TD166 mkii NOS (new old stock) that was still in the box with its components still in their original plastic, with the factory arm, and all the manuals and the external power source; I paid my turntable guy to put it together, test it, lubricate it, replace the belt and fit it with a Nagaoka MP-110 cartridge

* a TD126 mkiii electronic turntable in excellent vintage condition (not a mark on it, near pristine lid and hinges) from the original owner, fitted with upgraded RCA cables, and that came with two cartridges, both MC: the factory Thorens cart and a Denon that requires a new stylus and possibly can't be saved; the seller included a Denon HA-500 head amp to convert MC to MM on the Yamaha M-2 power amp I also bought from him

The TD166 mkii plays well and sounds great. It's a simple table but sturdy without much that can go wrong, and of course the motor is essentially brand new and should last for 30 years.

The TD126 mkiii works but definitely needs a tune-up, belt replacement, and probably a new cart. The platter, more often as not, requires a slight nudge to get going but seems to operate at proper speed thanks to the laser visual speed adjustment meter, which is cool feature. An after-market rubber mat came with it, in good shape. The TT is in lovely aesthetic condition with only one light out and no paint or finish loss or dings.

I am not handy so I will pay to have the 126 table brought up to snuff with an appropriate cart.

What do you think, audiokarma community, in terms of which will/should become my primary TT? I've read through the boards about the two tables and haven't seen the two compared and contrasted, especially with the NOS twist for the 125. I value your input, on tables and on carts. I have a feeling I might go with the 126 but I'd love to hear from you!
 
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The 126 ranks higher than the 166 with better specs. The DC motor on the Mk-III makes it the lesser sought-after mark. It may become the culprit as it's unserviceable, but if the TT is pristine and up to snuff - it's a keeper.
 
The 126 ranks higher than the 166 with better specs. The DC motor on the Mk-III makes it the lesser sought-after mark. It may become the culprit as it's unserviceable, but if the TT is pristine and up to snuff - it's a keeper.

Thanks for the quick response! I think I will definitely pay to restore the 126, if I can. The question becomes the cart. Can it be fit with an MM cart (forgive me, I'm a newbie), and if not do I shoot for a much higher end cart. It's nice to have options.
 
Yes. It comes stock with a TP-16 Mk-III IsoTrack TA with a TP-63 wand that supports a standard 1/2" mount. You could even go higher compliance MC cart like a Denon DL-301 Mk-II or a HOMC DL-110 and etc...
 
The "Enterprise" phasers are a cool feature but unfortunately there's nothing "laser" in a 126. The strobe is a neon lamp and the speed adjust is a simple trimmer. Some contemporary turntables used an optical sensor to detect the position of the tonearm which is as old as elevator door sensors. The 126, however, uses an induction sensor - much like the TD-145. A complete laser pickup for a compact disk player costs about seven bucks and laser diodes are cheaper than bubble gum but the 126 doesn't belong in that technology eon.
 
Yes. It comes stock with a TP-16 Mk-III IsoTrack TA with a TP-63 wand that supports a standard 1/2" mount. You could even go higher compliance MC cart like a Denon DL-301 Mk-II or a HOMC DL-110 and etc...

The 126 mkiii came with the stock Thorens cart, well kept, and a Denon DL-103D, which might be saved with retipping by someone handier than I. It also came with a wand with a brush that I understand operates kitty corner to the head shell, i.e., at the other side of the record, which whisks away dust as the records spin. The original owner never used it. When I get the table reconstituted, it will be very tempting to have that wand installed as well.
 
Regarding your Denon DL-103D, you have the version that will actually work on your TD-126 tonearm. It is well thought of and well worth retipping. My suggestion is to contact former AK member Needlestein over at epay and inquire as to the options for your cartridge. Look for retipper cartridge_retipping-5. (I did a search for "retip" and looked for one of his listings.) Does excellent work and many others can vouch for him.
 
Thank you very much for the tip (no pun intended). I do work with a generalist who taps experts in everything audio, from recapping to retipping, and I might ask him when he's back at work (he's out for a bit) as his guy will probably be the one to work on the turntable. He might have a great retipper in mind. If not, I will look up Needlestein. I might do that anyway. I have no idea of the cost. It will likely cost much less than my money pit nightmare with Sound-smith with a B&O cartridge: US$350, six months' wait, unsatisfactory results, which I can probably in part blame on the table as much as on the cartridge; it was like playing liquid mud. I listened to it twice and off it went for resale, with full disclosure, of course.
 
Recently started working on my TD126 ii, specifically because of a problem with the auto-lift. Pulled out the boards and gasped in awe and fear. Zillions of caps, transistors, etc, to do what other decks like the TD160 do with just a little motor and a belt. Got the Thorens maintenance manual; it’s in German as well as English but might as well be in German entirely given the complexity of the thing. The explanation for how the auto-shutoff works is hilariously Rube-Goldbergian. An entire board full of transistors and whatever simply to raise the arm at the end of the record. Makes me love my Miracord changer which does this and more with a few cams and pivots and requires no service as long as not immersed in seawater for months.
 
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