Tidal in trouble?

[Jeffery]

The whole streaming music deal sounded great, but every service I've paid for has gone under. At least I'm ahead of the curve on Tidal - never signed up for it before it vanishes

And now Sonos is laying people off. Lico will be thrilled with this news, looks like I jinxed them by using their service.

 

[ducati_EL34]

If I thought Tidal was going out of business and high bitrate lossy files weren't good enough for my ears, I would jump on now and enjoy it. The idea that you have to wait for the dust to settle means your are missing the opportunity of having access to millions of albums right now.

Not all of those "millions" of albums interest me, in the least. Quality over quantity.

I can always buy more music.

If you are subscribed and the company goes out of business, you can just go back to your comparatively small library the next day.

My "comparatively small" library meets my needs for musical enjoyment, just fine.

 

[uofmtiger]

Not all of those "millions" of albums interest me, in the least. Quality over quantity.

I can always buy more music.



My "comparatively small" library meets my needs for musical enjoyment, just fine.

That was my point. There is no point in quoting me on the comparatively small library remark. Your home library is definitely miniscule compared to the Tidal library (they have over 40 million tracks). Unless you have a very narrow perspective on music, the fact is that they have an advantage both in quality and quantity. The "dust settling" is an irrelevant remark if you are perfectly happy with what you have now.

I was in the "always buy more" music mode several years back. In a span of about 10-15 years I spent more on my own library than what a subscription to Tidal would have cost me over ~75 year period. With the $10 a month plan I have on my streaming service of choice, it would have been over a ~150 year period. For me, streaming is much cheaper even if I only listened to music I had planned to buy. However, since I have access to almost everything, I can listen to musicians I would never have pursued in the past because it wasn't worth the $10 (or more). For the rare artist that still isn't available on any streaming service, I have more than enough money left over to buy their album.

 

[ducati_EL34]

That was my point. There is no point in quoting me on the comparatively small library remark. Your home library is definitely miniscule compared to the Tidal library (they have over 40 million tracks). Unless you have a very narrow perspective on music, the fact is that they have an advantage both in quality and quantity. The "dust settling" is an irrelevant remark if you are perfectly happy with what you have now.

I was in the "always buy more" music mode several years back. In a span of about 10-15 years I spent more on my own library than what a subscription to Tidal would have cost me over ~75 year period. With the $10 a month plan I have on my streaming service of choice, it would have been over a ~150 year period. For me, streaming is much cheaper even if I only listened to music I had planned to buy. However, since I have access to almost everything, I can listen to musicians I would never have pursued in the past because it wasn't worth the $10 (or more). For the rare artist that still isn't available on any streaming service, I have more than enough money left over to buy their album.

I own two motorcycles, and several firearms. $150/year is nothing. But even if it mattered, after having spent $150, I would also have the physical media.

Tidal is not the only way to hear about new artists. YouTube is free for sampling new stuff, and if I like it, I go out and buy it.

Yes in a way, my musical tastes are narrowing. My intake of rock music is declining, while classical is on the upswing. Jazz is remaining steady.

 

[Rockyhill]

I own two motorcycles, and several firearms. $150/year is nothing. But even if it mattered, after having spent $150, I would also have the physical media.

Tidal is not the only way to hear about new artists. YouTube is free for sampling new stuff, and if I like it, I go out and buy it.

Yes in a way, my musical tastes are narrowing. My intake of rock music is declining, while classical is on the upswing. Jazz is remaining steady.

What do guns and motorcycles have to do with streaming music?

 

[ducati_EL34]

What do guns and motorcycles have to do with streaming music?

Compared to the cost of tires on a motorcycle or buying ammo, $150/year is not that much for some CDs...

 

[Rockyhill]

Compared to the cost of tires on a motorcycle or buying ammo, $150/year is not that much for some CDs...

I guess... in a non sequitur way of logic.

 

[ducati_EL34]

I guess... in a non sequitur way of logic.

It follows for me. The added expense for me buying CDs, compared to a tidal subscription is not significant, and I have the physical media.

 

[uofmtiger]

It follows for me. The added expense for me buying CDs, compared to a tidal subscription is not significant, and I have the physical media.

If you had posted that you plan to buy everything you ever want to hear, have narrowing music tastes, and can live with YouTube quality and commercials for everything else, I wouldn't have bothered replying to you. The fact is that on demand paid streaming isn't for everyone. I don't recommend streaming to my parents for many of the same reasons.

However, your initial posts said you were waiting for "dust to settle", which I interpreted to mean that you eventually wanted to stream but shaky business models were in your way. Enjoy you motorcycles and ammo.

 

[ducati_EL34]

If you had posted that you plan to buy everything you ever want to hear, have narrowing music tastes, and can live with YouTube quality and commercials for everything else, I wouldn't have bothered replying to you. The fact is that on demand paid streaming isn't for everyone. I don't recommend streaming to my parents for many of the same reasons.

However, your initial posts said you were waiting for "dust to settle", which I interpreted to mean that you eventually wanted to stream but shaky business models were in your way. Enjoy you motorcycles and ammo.

You were the one who fought up the difference between streaming and purchasing media. That is what I was addressing. As for waiting for the dust to settle, I see nothing wrong with that stance, before making a decision, one way or another.

 

[uofmtiger]

You were the one who fought up the difference between streaming and purchasing media. That is what I was addressing. As for waiting for the dust to settle, I see nothing wrong with that stance, before making a decision, one way or another.

I was making the point because "IF" you were waiting on the sidelines and were supposedly interested in streaming, it is a more sensible option to get in now because of $$$ you save and the ability to listen to any selection of music from a 40 million track library regardless of "shaky business models". Hence my point about $$$.

Your problem with streaming has very little to do with business models or dust settling. Therefore, my points probably don't make much sense in that context.

 

[ducati_EL34]

I was making the point because "IF" you were waiting on the sidelines and were supposedly interested in streaming, it is a more sensible option to get in now because of $$$ you save and the ability to listen to any selection of music from a 40 million track library regardless of "shaky business models". Hence my point about $$$.

My point was, I am not worried about saving money by buying CDs vs. streaming. Everyone with some amount of disposable income is frivolous with money, in some way. The best example is the Starbucks customers who buy a ~$5 crapacino every morning. However, I bet some of them would say our expenditures on this hobby are frivolous.

Your problem with streaming has very little to do with business models or dust settling.

sure it does. I am not going to reward a $hitty business model, that is here today and gone tomorrow.