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Too Many Notes?

Well, this is all personal preference about what a person likes, but I've yet to hear anything by Joe Satriani that I don't like.

can he play fast?

Yep.

But he hits every note clean, clear and distinct from each other.

That's talent and skill, matched by very few.

Can't even count how many times I've sat down and gone right through "Surfing With the Alien". Every song a great one.

But I get it if others don't like it. And now we're full circle back to personal preferences......

;)
 
I recall having thoughts about Too Many Notes when I first saw Mahavishnu Orchestra at the Morris Mechanic Theatre in Baltimore (circa '73). ... some of Al Dimeola's songs. And Fripp is not always harmonious either. Now some do have lush harmony and feeling. But there is a thing about shredding; aka lightning finger play; and sometimes its not as musical to my ears as things I prefer to hear. ;)
 
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krautmaster said:
I meant Emperor Joseph II, not Frederick... my bad
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That's fine. :thumbsup:

In the film, it was Kapellmeister Orisini-Rosenberg was the one who came up with the criticism of "too many notes" which Joseph II repeated. A number of liberties were taken in Amadeus so the historical authenticity of the quote is doubtful.
 
tourmax said:
Well, this is all personal preference about what a person likes, but I've yet to hear anything by Joe Satriani that I don't like.

can he play fast?

Yep.

But he hits every note clean, clear and distinct from each other.

That's talent and skill, matched by very few.

Can't even count how many times I've sat down and gone right through "Surfing With the Alien". Every song a great one.

But I get it if others don't like it. And now we're full circle back to personal preferences......

;)
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Yes he is technically brilliant, I just don't like his style of playing, I like a nice slow hand with emotion (David Gilmore, Mark Knopfler, Billy Gibbons playing blues rock ). It is just my opinion, but I find Satriani's playing soulless, he's like an automaton.

But as we like to say here on AK, you get to like what you like (and I get to hate it :banana: ) This is more my style:

 
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62caddy said:
That's fine. :thumbsup:

In the film, it was Kapellmeister Orisini-Rosenberg was the one who came up with the criticism of "too many notes" which Joseph II repeated. A number of liberties were taken in Amadeus so the historical authenticity of the quote is doubtful.
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I doubt very much of the movie (and play) was factual, it is a movie after all, but it was fun ! The "too many notes" quote sums things up nicely, and I think Mozart did use a lot more notes in much of his work than I care to hear... very busy and after a while, quite tedious.
 
coonmanx said:
There has to be a balance between technical know how and phrasing. Because the phraisng is just as important. I really like watching some of the old Ritchie Blackmore stuff when he was with Deep Purple. But even he talks about just being technical and throwing out a whole bunch of notes. Of course he wouldn't have done that if it hadn't gotten him attention as a guitar player. He is very talented. But now he does madrigal music. Oh well... It's called understanding phrasing.

Of course he also had Jon Lord right there on organ...

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This is the kind of "noise" I was referring to in my original post... more than 30 seconds of it and I'm ready to stick a pencil through my ears
 
krautmaster said:
I doubt very much of the movie (and play) was factual, it is a movie after all, but it was fun ! The "too many notes" quote sums things up nicely, and I think Mozart did use a lot more notes in much of his work than I care to hear... very busy and after a while, quite tedious.
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We all have our opinions of music which is fine. But the purpose of the line was to suggest buffoonery on the part of the "establishment" rather than musical sophistication.
 
krautmaster said:
This is the kind of "noise" I was referring to in my original post... more than 30 seconds of it and I'm ready to stick a pencil through my ears
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I actually can really enjoy it. Not that it is my favortie Deep Purple song. But I can appreciate the talent that is there and how they play off each other.

Each to his own I guess. I think it's a shame that you can't recognize real talent (and Ritchie was very talented).
 
coonmanx said:
Each to his own I guess. I think it's a shame that you can't recognize real talent (and Ritchie was very talented).
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Some cannot see the talent, their bias (dislike) gets in the way. Same with music genres.

Is what it is :biggrin: :thumbsup:

And all the shedders mentioned in this thread make/made a good living at it because more than enough people like it, that includes audiophools and civilians. Pretty sure they are not worried about what us old farts are discussing :rockon:
 
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coonmanx said:
I actually can really enjoy it. Not that it is my favortie Deep Purple song. But I can appreciate the talent that is there and how they play off each other.

Each to his own I guess. I think it's a shame that you can't recognize real talent (and Ritchie was very talented).
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Oh, I recognize the talent, I just don't like that "style" of playing, it's not my thing and I don't have to listen to stuff I don't like :D.
 
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