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tool for fine vta adjustments?

Just keep tonearm parallel to record and use correct VTF, and you are done .

And do not buy or accept cartridges with VTA above 23 degrees, If it is not specified it is likely too high…
Hifinews measurements show actual cartridge VTA , and my scripts does too

 
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It's simple math, nothing else.

arcsin(1mm/230mm) = 0,25°

The manufacturing tolerances are multiples of that value.
Exactly, add to this that with conical and elliptical the contact patch hardly changes at all with VTA change ( elliptical) and not at all on conical. Adjusting makes very little difference anyway but if people are adjusting for these profiles they are totally wasting their time
Chris
 
Hey @cookthebooks that's a nice tonearm you have there but I'm not very familiar with the intricacies thereof, aside from having done a rewire on one that a friend brought to me when the original loom had been damaged. As far as VTA goes, I did not have the opportunity nor was there a need to adjust.

Most tonearms have a lift mechanism, as does yours, that when the arm is in the "up" position it will be your "third hand" and hold it for you so one can loosen the (usually grub) screw(s) holding the arm base in place which then allows for upward and downward positioning of the arm therein to adjust VTA. @heyraz has given you a couple good ideas on how to keep it in place should you feel the need to do that.

Now, while VTA is certainly part of the big picture of getting cartridge setup correct, the arm must be raised or lowered in its base a full 4-5mm in order to effect 1 degree of difference in VTA!!! So, this kind of tells you that very small increments of change in VTA are not likely going to make a huge difference in what you are hearing. The bottom line for me would be.......listen (I do this whole process with headphones to hear more minute changes) and then adjust one way or the other. You will be able to get close by making up or down movements of around 1 to 2mm until you like what you hear.....beyond that, if I still don't like what I hear, I start thinking about other factors like azimuth, VTF or even antiskating can sometimes make more of a difference than what I might think.

Also, remember that you are going to be changing VTA each time you adjust the VTF and likely to greater degrees than when you actually move your tonearm base up and down. When you increase VTF, it collapses the cantilever a bit which, if you think about it, will tend to change the position of the stylus so that you get less of an angle......so, if you were spot-on at 92 degrees and increase the VTF it will move the stylus in a way that gets closer toward 90 degrees. How much depends on how much you increase VTF. The same is true in lowering VTF, which will take you from where you are upward in degrees.

There are multiple variables that I trust you know about which are interrelated and a change in one causes a change in another, which makes cartridge setup so much fun, don't it??? Carry on, amigo, and hope this helps a bit.

PS - I was playing around with this stuff one day and decided to use my Yamaha PX-3 turntable since it has VTA "on the fly" capabilities! Put on my headphones and a record that I know extremely well and started to go upward and downward with the base of the tonearm. While I was able to clearly hear the changes, I was a bit surprised that there was less of a change than what I had expected. My takeaway from that experiment was that what has been written on how much the base needs to be lifted or lowered just to get 1 degree of difference is true and that this difference is not as profound in changing the sound as I had imagined it might be. Don't read me wrongly here, it DOES indeed make a difference, just not as much as I was expecting. For those of us (not me) with "golden ears," this might be different so I should affirm delta roblox that to some it might be a deal-breaker......dang, wish I had them ears (or do I???)!!! :rflmao:
How much depends on how much you increase VTF?
 
That is a good question, and it is hard to say because the amount of deflection of the cantilever will not only depend on the VTF but also on the stiffness, or lack thereof, of the suspension in the cartridge. So, it could be said that this is a pretty "fluid' phenomenon depending on several factors so the best way would probably to find a tool by which to measure the angle of the stylus as it rests on the record surface. I have taken pictures and attempted to use a protractor app that can be superimposed on the picture. This gives a pretty good representation, but there are still so many variables to get just right before the measurement can be deemed to approach any degree of accuracy. Hence, I've come to the conclusion that getting things "close," and then tuning by ear, listening to music that I know very well and judging the outcome by how large the angle of my grin from ear to ear is.......have some fun, carry on, amigo!
 
Unless it is absolutely miles out don't worry about it.
It takes 6mm from level to arrive at a distortion that a human can perceive with a single tone and when I say perceive only some people and just. It takes 10mm from level from the golden eared to be able to pick the tiny distortion increase in music and 10 mm is huge.
Adjusting a mm or two you are wasting your time, add to this not all stylus ( especially factory) are even close to being mounted properly anyway.
Chris
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I don't adjust anything when I play different weight LPs: 140, 180, or 200 grams.

I've learned the hard way — adjust once to your best ability with the weight LP that you'll prolly use the most (me: 140 grams, since I like original pressings). And leave the settings alone.

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