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Turntable with cuing lever recommendations

JParry335

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Used to spend a lot of time here but have not been around for some time due to life.
Would like to get a turntable that has a cuing lever as my hands are not as steady as they used to be.
Could be vintage, new, newer, does not have to be high end but would prefer something “nicer”.
Thanks for your suggestions, ideas and input in advance!
 
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As most turntables have a cuing devise, I think you'll have to be a little more specific.

Any budget in mind?
Belt drive or Direct Drive?
Anything else we should know?

jeff
 
Used to spend a lot of time here but have not been around for some time due to life.
Would like to get a turntable that has a cuing lever as my hands are not as steady as they used to be.
Could be vintage, new, newer, does not have to be high end but would prefer something “nicer”.
Thanks for your suggestions, ideas and input in advance!
The wording of your thread title, turntable with cuing, immediately made me think of something very basic, like a Rega Planar 2 or a U-Turn Orbit Custom with the optional cue lever. I can relate to "my hands are not as steady as they used to be," and if you play 45's another option U-Turn has that the Planar 2 does not is electronic speed control, where you change speeds by simply turning a knob instead of moving the belt on the pulley. A U-Turn Orbit Custom with cue lever and electronic speed control is $379.

As to the "nicer" part, I thought of Steve Guttenberg's review of a current U-Turn generation 2, in which he said, "And the other thing is, this turntable feels good when you use it. I can't stress this enough! Some turntables--'cause turntables are a component that you handle all the time, you're constantly touching it, right?--and some of them don't feel good. They feel cheap, or they feel loose or wobbly or something, or they feel floaty. You know, there's a lot of things that can be off-putting about playing records. And this one, the Orbit Gen 2, doesn't have that. It feels very well put together. The cueing feels fantastic if you order the cueing. Um, it just feels right, and that's a big plus that's hard to put into a number or qualify. I can just say that's how it felt to me."

Poster DavidTT has experience with older U-Turns, the Gen 2, and the new Orbit Theory. Here's a link to one informative post (and a reason why an Orbit Gen 2 will be my next turntable).

 
The wording of your thread title, turntable with cuing, immediately made me think of something very basic, like a Rega Planar 2 or a U-Turn Orbit Custom with the optional cue lever. I can relate to "my hands are not as steady as they used to be," and if you play 45's another option U-Turn has that the Planar 2 does not is electronic speed control, where you change speeds by simply turning a knob instead of moving the belt on the pulley. A U-Turn Orbit Custom with cue lever and electronic speed control is $379.

As to the "nicer" part, I thought of Steve Guttenberg's review of a current U-Turn generation 2, in which he said, "And the other thing is, this turntable feels good when you use it. I can't stress this enough! Some turntables--'cause turntables are a component that you handle all the time, you're constantly touching it, right?--and some of them don't feel good. They feel cheap, or they feel loose or wobbly or something, or they feel floaty. You know, there's a lot of things that can be off-putting about playing records. And this one, the Orbit Gen 2, doesn't have that. It feels very well put together. The cueing feels fantastic if you order the cueing. Um, it just feels right, and that's a big plus that's hard to put into a number or qualify. I can just say that's how it felt to me."

Poster DavidTT has experience with older U-Turns, the Gen 2, and the new Orbit Theory. Here's a link to one informative post (and a reason why an Orbit Gen 2 will be my next turntable).

Thank you! I will definitely look into this.
 
As most turntables have a cuing devise, I think you'll have to be a little more specific.

Any budget in mind?
Belt drive or Direct Drive?
Anything else we should know?

jeff
Budget is undecided.
Currently I have a Stanton T.92 USB which for the most part is fine but what it is lacking is the cuing arm feature that I used to have on a Yamaha table a long time ago.
I liked that the Yamaha was a direct drive as anything with belts can become problematic over time.
I’m not dead set on new technology versus old. Also not looking to go real high end but not interested in cheap junk either.
I know this is probably not very helpful but I am most certainly open to options, opinions and information.
Thanks!
 
Budget is undecided.
Currently I have a Stanton T.92 USB which for the most part is fine but what it is lacking is the cuing arm feature that I used to have on a Yamaha table a long time ago.
I liked that the Yamaha was a direct drive as anything with belts can become problematic over time.
Belts can be problematic if the manufacturer goes out of business and you can't get new ones of commensurate quality. Other than that, belts have never been an issue for me, but then I've always replaced them at the interval indicated by the maker. This has varied for me from one year to five years, but the overall price has been about the same since the one-year belt (Audio Technica) was about 1/5 the price of the belts that were supposed to last 5 years (Linn, Rega). U-Turn says, "Under normal use, the belt should last 1000+ playing hours before needing to be replaced." At my level of use, 1000 hours would get me through about 16 months. A new U-turn belt is $10; for comparison, the replacement belt for a Rega Planar 2, while longer lasting, is $55.

I have very little experience with direct drive turntables, mine having been inexpensive models serving as 2nd turntables in systems where my belt drove 'tables made playing 45's and 78's inconvenient or impossible (e.g., Linn, Rega, Well Tempered). I enjoyed both a Stanton STR8-80 and an Audio Technica LP120XUSB as occasional-use turntables, but I don't believe either of them would be described as "something nicer," as you put it in your first post.

I had left all my gear behind in a move across the country a few years ago, but I did buy another LP120XUSB last Christmas when it was on sale for $249 (current price is $449). It's not that I'm not enjoying it, but for full-time use it does have some off-putting niggles, such as an anti-skate control that is far from well calibrated (way too strong; my current one needs the dial to be set at about 1/4 of the vtf number, and it's a bit fiddly to set exactly how I want it). With the supplied cartridge, the arm is tail-up when playing a record, so a headshell spacer would be needed to correct that if desired. The cue lever on both of mine soon lost any damping of the downward movement of the arm; I still use it, but if I want the arm to settle slowly on the record, I need to move the cue lever slowly to make that happen. Trifling matters perhaps, especially at the price I paid, and I do think it's a good-sounding turntable, but the hands-on feel might be disappointing.

Not that I've used one, but I have read good things about the AT-LP5X ($649). Another highly praised option is the Pioneer PLX-1000 ($889), though every review I've seen has commented on the need to adjust loose tonearm bearings. The AT's tonearm bearings have been praised by the reviews I've seen, such as, "I found no perceptible play in my factory-fresh example. It floats smoothly, swinging freely in all directions and appears to be of excellent quality given the modest cost of the turntable as a whole." Technics has a new, lower-price model in the $899.99 SL-50C.

What Hi-Fi is a review source I've learned to trust because my assessment of gear that I've had a chance to audition typically matches theirs. Of the LP5X they wrote, "The AT-LP5x is a well-executed design that sounds great for the money. It’s also well built, easy to set up and nice to use. These things make it worthy of a spot on anyone’s shortlist." If a built-in phono stage is of use to you, the one in the LP5X got this praise from the What Hi-Fi review, "For fun, we bypass the LP5x’s internal phono stage with our reference Cyrus Phono Signature and take a listen. Despite the price difference (the Cyrus costs £1495) the comparison shows that the Audio-Technica’s phono stage is a good one. We don’t think it will be a limiting factor when the time comes to upgrade."
 
I have never been fond of Technics cuing levers especially on this latest go around of TT's they are making. The best that I had were made by SME back in the 60's and 70's. The VPI levers are middle of the road. Duals and Miracords never impressed me. Ortofon arms didn't have them back when and neither did Grado, B&O and Revox linear tables used push buttons and could be iffy. Yamaha I don't talk about. Marantz were OK. I draw a blank on Sony and Thorens arms. Kenwood could be good. I have been a manual TT guy after my Duals and Miracord. So I'm not that familiar with fully automatic or semi automatic that don't stack records. Empires I found to be tricky in so many respecs and is why I waited for the TD 125 to come along. Now we had a TT tech that could make 99% of TT's be better than what they ever were and that includes the cuing set up on tone arms. He would touch up my SME and Rabco arms from time to time and taught nme how to take care of my Rabco SL-8E with aided set down and automatic lift at the end of a record. Changing the C battery that powers the arm every three years is so difficult as it takes about 10 seconds.
 
I have an older Technics SL1200 MK2 from the 90's. I think they have very good ergonomic feel. Cue and platter brake is nice for when loading discs. There are many around. And after market part suppliers.
You could look for a nice lightly used non-discoed one. Or, look at new versions. I've not tried a new one. So no experience with them.
 
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