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Upgrades for a Thorens TD 126 MKIII? (vinyl newbie)

thought91

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Hi! I'll be picking up my first turntable this Saturday, the Thorens TD 126 MKIII. I have no idea what I'm doing, but it seems to me to be decent. I'm paying 400 for it, and have 2-300 more to spend on upgrades. A friend is giving me new a cartridge to use, so I won't need an upgrade there. My question is, if not there then where? Thanks! I also plan to try to figure out how to do a tune up.
 
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Thought91 you didn't half step, that's a big leap for your first table. I checked the listing on Ebay and according to the dealer/seller it has been checked out by his tech and is in good operating condition. I'd speak with the dealer to see if the belt was changed if it needed it and the bearing lubricated, both simple fairly cheap maintenance items. Being a top Thorens model it shouldn't need anything as far as upgrades go other than maybe a cartridge. I'd leave the M97 on it until you get very comfortable operating the table. You might want to update what you have for a preamp etc. I'd save the balance of your funds for record cleaning equipment/supplies that will have a lot greater impact on sound quality than most upgrades like changing mats etc. As suggested download/printout the owners/service manuals from Vinyl Engine. By the looks of it you did very well on the price, when you transport it home I'd have the dealer remove the platter to be safe.
 
Hi! I'll be picking up my first turntable this Saturday, the Thorens TD 126 MKIII. I have no idea what I'm doing, but it seems to me to be decent. I'm paying 400 for it, and have 2-300 more to spend on upgrades. A friend is giving me new a cartridge to use, so I won't need an upgrade there. My question is, if not there then where? Thanks! I also plan to try to figure out how to do a tune up.

I have one too. I purchased mine in 2011 and have only used it sparingly. But I have seen and heard enough of it to know that this is a real keeper. If you like Thorens turntables, this is one of their better ones.

As noted in previous posts, you don't reallly need to immediately consider upgrades. This thing is already top of the line. It already has an effective power supply and electronic motor control at work. Really, just mount your cartridge then do a good job of aligning it for overhang, zenith, azimuth and vta/sra. Not to forget vtf. These are the things to be concentrating on when you first receive this deck.

Enjoy!
-Steve
 
Consider a cork turntable mat which benefits the sound enough to make a difference....

Right. I forgot platter mats. The original rubber mat can be improved on. On mine I have used a few interesting ones.
The Herbies mat is a good one and is effective at reducing drive train noise before it can reach the record groove. I've also used a Boston Audio Mat2. which, while a little thick, and has some buyer beware attributes, resulted in the quietest background noise....which is already extremely quiet in stock form.

I used to sell cork spotmats back around 2004 - 2007 or thereabouts. And I tried my cork spot mats on all of my players at the time. And I experimented with all kinds of cork configurations...spot or none, etc. Personally I'll take a Herbies Way Excellent mat over any cork mat. But that is just my thinking.

-Steve
 
Liking the herbies on my 160 super and 125 both with non-Yhorens arms. Recommend a cartridge that costs as much as the rest of the rig. That table can get the most out of some pretty nice cartridges.
 
Relax and just enjoy your Thorens deck for at least a little bit. Once you understand it's sound, then you can investigate upgrades nd mods.

One day I hope I can compare my TD160 to a 125 and 126. ANd 124, but that's silly talk.
 
You scored a truly great TT, much better than the Linn (I've had both), for a great price. Why don't you listen to it before talking about changing it? Modifications can go tragically wrong.
 
The table is fine as it sits. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, I would spend it on either a phono stage upgrade...depending on which one you are using. Or I would spend the money on a way to clean your records. Clean vinyl is one of the best upgrades you can make. For the cheap, i would use something like the Vac Wand, or some sort of vacuum based cleaning machine. Don't know what is available in your area, but in North America the Squeaky Clean machine is the most affordable option. Not sure if you got anything there that is the equivalent.

Regards
Mister Pig
 
Thought91 I was going to recommend that you purchase the Thorens but you beat me to it by making a hard to beat "best offer". This was an ideal situation for you where the seller didn't want to ship the table and you were very smart to take advantage of the situation. The Thorens TD-126 was one of Thorens upper tier tables and it is unlikely Thorens took any short cuts back then when they designed/ built the table including the mat. As more experienced AK members have suggested leave it in stock form for now, at best another mat might sound different but unlikely better than the factory mat and all you will succeed in doing is wasting your money. For many that TD-126 would be an end table but you jumped to the head of the line on your choice of a first table, to get a table of that build quality today you would probably have to spend close to $2,000. I agree with Bimasta that the Thorens is a much better choice than the Linn, as your farther experienced you would end up bankrupt with that money pit of a table. I can't over emphasize that a turntable is very delicate and has to be handled with extreme care. As another AK member suggested have the dealer disassemble the table for transport home, bring a copy of the owners manual to the store when you go to pick it up and have them follow the reverse of assembly using boxes and packing material. Don't hesitate to get back to us for advice re the TD-126, terrific to see a young smart AK member start out with a high quality vintage table that many older AK members would only dream about owning. As for upgrades that make sense keep an eye out for a set of hinges for the dustcover, if you have all the original parts the TD-126 can only go up in value.
 
terrific to see a young smart AK member start out with a high quality vintage table that many older AK members would only dream about owning
Yes, it's better than most and a good start and It's a fantastic table b/c Thorens at that time, never made consumer level mass produced junk like much of their contemporary Japanese competition, but let's not over do it. Thorens diehards don't really drool over this specific model and I'll go against the grain here. The only model with a DC servo motor instead of the classic Thorens 16 pole AC synchronous motor, is the Mk-III. The previous marks used the same motor as the predecessor TD-125 Mk-II flagship. The DC servo motor got tossed by the manufacturer and the AC motor brought back into the TD-126 Mk-IV, which makes the DC motor replacements nearly unobtanium. The Mk-III is therefor the least saught after TD-126 and the concept of DC motors and their supporting circuits in Thorens turntables left controversial and unfavorable ever since.
 
Yes, it's better than most and a good start and It's a fantastic table b/c Thorens at that time, never made consumer level mass produced junk like much of their contemporary Japanese competition, but let's not over do it. Thorens diehards don't really drool over this specific model and I'll go against the grain here. The only model with a DC servo motor instead of the classic Thorens 16 pole AC synchronous motor, is the Mk-III. The previous marks used the same motor as the predecessor TD-125 Mk-II flagship. The DC servo motor got tossed by the manufacturer and the AC motor brought back into the TD-126 Mk-IV, which makes the DC motor replacements nearly unobtanium. The Mk-III is therefor the least saught after TD-126 and the concept of DC motors and their supporting circuits in Thorens turntables left controversial and unfavorable ever since.

True. The DC servo motor used on this table departs from their previous methods. But.....they gained more power to the output while not adding any cogging attributes associated with previous motors that were used. This motor was also used on the TD105, 110 and 115 models during the same years of mfr. So spares, while not plentiful, can be sourced.

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Here is something that the Td126 mkII or previous mk1 or the Td125 models can not do.....it can start from cold and reach calibrated 33-1/3rd rpm in less than two rpm. It is the increase in torque and power output that makes this possible. You can also hear this added output power in the sound, where rhythmic drive has a stronger motivation.

All the while it retains one of the industry best signal to noise ratios of that day....which continues to be supurb today.

So I guess I reveal some enthusiasm that I feel for this particular model based on the experience that I have had with it. In time, as I work with it, I will document my observations to my site. Both the positive and negative. Presently, my sample is in good form.

-Steve
 
Lets not rain on the young OPs parade, by any standard he did terrific for a first time novice buyer of turntables. Considering the $400 purchase price anything new for the same price would pale in comparison to his Thorens TD-126MkIII. User510 please update with your site info so that the OP can check it out for more info on the Thorens TD-126MkIII.
 
Lets not rain on the young OPs parade
No, no parade rainin'. The OP had actually done OK. This is AudioKarma's TT forum and the first place flippers and opportunists come to check the market vibe before they stick an overpriced tag on their epay / CL latest estate sale scores. The truth must be told to restrain those who operate out of greed and try to exploit those who do it out of love.
This motor was also used on the TD105, 110 and 115 models during the same years of mfr.
Exactly! When I mentioned "unfavorable" those are the models that pop in mind. Ever compared their PCB's and components to the early classic Thorens models like the TD-125 or TD-145??? These newer ones look exactly like their Japanese counterparts with cheap low qauality electronic components purchased by the hundreds of thousands from the lowest bidder. Gone were the European parts, like the Fraco PS and Philips phase shift capacitors and none of the exemplary circuit designs survived. All remains of left over quality from the golden era vanished by then, only to be replaced with lots of plastic by bean counters cut backs and savings... It's no wonder they went bankrupt!
 
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