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Victor CL-P2 / TT81

sinnerboy

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I made a low-ball offer on a TT-81 / CL-P2 combination on the 'bay from a Japanese seller. To my surprise it was accepted. The pics showed a plinth in good condition, no mat and no dustcover. The TT-81 'powered on'. Based on a previous purchase (TT-71 with CL-P1 plinth) I knew one couldn't depend much on descriptions posted in the ad (the TT-71 was described as 'junk', which to Japanese sellers means that it either doesn't work or is missing components). In that case, the missing component was evidently the tonearm, which was obvious. To my surprise the TT-71 performed flawlessly. On this purchase, I knew I would have to have a dustcover made (hard to find original ones) and likely do some work on the TT-81, but I was mainly after the CL-P2 plinth and my lowball offer reflected that. So the offer was accepted, then came the wait for shipping. 3 weeks went by, and despite communication with the seller, I was close to cancelling the sale. I waited it out and to my surprise, the seller shipped it this week FedEx Overnight. That had to have almost wiped out the profit margin for them, but I am appreciative.
First, I guess I wasn't ready for the size and weight of it. FedEx listed it as 62 lbs, I thought that had to be an estimate unfulfilled. The box was huge and certainly weighed 62 lbs. It was well packed and to my surprise, a dustcover in nice condition was the first thing to reveal itself. The big, heavy plinth was made for two tonearms, I'll mount my Victor UA-7045 on one board, and I'm searching for another tonearm (probably a 12"). The aforementioned TT-71 (or a TT-61) will be put into it while I make sure the TT-81 is checked out. It powers on but doesn't spin. Another curious thing is there was no mat shown in the pics, but included was a thin suede leather mat sitting on a glass mat. I assume it would be similar to an acrylic mat, I'll be interested to find out.
 

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Update, I took the motor out of the plinth and messed around with it. I got it to spin so hopefully its just dirty contact buttons / switches and I'll likely recap it. FYI, it is an entirely different monster than the TT-71. The 71's pcb is easily accessible by simply pulling the bottom cover, all the capacitors are staring back at you. On the 81, the pcb is mounted to where all you see is the bottom of the pcb, the capacitors et. al. are mounted on the flip side. I haven't looked at how to remove it yet, chances are there will be some de-soldering of connections I would rather not do.
Even tho the plinth's veneer is in good condition, I will likely apply new veneer so I can match the tonearm boards perfectly since I will be making new ones for my specific tonearms.
 
I own the entire TT series (not the 61) and I consider them excellent turntables; only the 101 is a bit complicated and laborious to repair in case of problems, the recap is mandatory for everyone.
 
I own the entire TT series (not the 61) and I consider them excellent turntables; only the 101 is a bit complicated and laborious to repair in case of problems, the recap is mandatory for everyone.
How reliable is the TT-81? By any chance, did you listened to the Tehnics SP-10 MKii? I am thinking to buy one of these 2 for experimenting with long tonearms (12 Inches).
 
How reliable is the TT-81?

It's reliable, but a quick checkup before making things worse would be advisable, as with any 40-year-old product. It remains a solid option for its price range.
By any chance, did you listened to the Tehnics SP-10 MKii?

:biggrin::biggrin: Sure, I've serviced and restored many of them, and I personally own a few. It's a professional turntable you simply have to own.



This one, for example, was waiting for the tonearm overhaul to be completed (Denon DA 307), but it was actually finished quite a while ago.


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Another one that was serviced and restored a while ago.


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This one is almost finished. Unfortunately, when the plinths oxidize and the protective coating gets damaged, you have to repaint them if you don't want them looking terrible.



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Those are beautiful restored, @best-groove . Congratulations!

I own 2 Yamaha GT-2000L that's how much I love the look and sound of that one.

But, as I would like to test some 12" tone arms (I already own an SME 3012-R), I was thinking to buy a restored TT-101 (impossible to find one), TT-81 (sometimes is available) or an Tehnics SP-10 MK2. What is your opinion between the 81 and sp-10?

The thing holding me back with the sp10, is the iron core of their motors and the cogging. Anything I would buy, I would compare it against my GTs.
 
The thing holding me back with the sp10, is the iron core of their motors and the cogging.

Regarding your doubt about the iron-core motor and cogging on the SP-10 MK2: you are touching on a very real technical point, but in practice, Technics managed to minimize it through massive torque and high-density phase control.
However, if that specific aspect worries you, the Victor TT-81 (or even better, its big brother TT-101) are fantastic alternatives that approach direct drive with different magnetic design philosophies.

Considering that you already own two GT2000 units (which are absolute masterpieces of inertia, silence, and natural belt/direct drive feel, depending on the version), adding an SP-10 MK2 would give you an ultra-muscular, broadcast-grade machine with immense drive.
But if you want something that bridges the gap between the surgical precision of a direct drive and the refined, liquid musicality of your Yamaha GT-2000s, the Victor TT-81 (or TT 101 with bi-directional control) is a brilliant, highly musical choice that will give you zero regrets
 
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