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Vintage option for MC2105 + C28 . . . ?

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Hello everyone,

Background
I'm building my first serious system. I've been reading a lot about different speakers, TTs, etc. people have tried with this amp/pre-amp combo, although sadly so few options are available within a four or five hour drive of where I live in Florida. Hurricanes and the general weather have not been kind to vintage gear here over the years, speakers in particular! I am trying to put together something that is sympathetic to the 30s-60s aesthetic of my house and furnishings. I especially appreciate the furniture-quality cabinets of some of the older speakers. Some of my favorite cabinet + grill combos are from '50s Electro-voice speakers, for instance. I also like the JBL C38 and some of the Altec Barcelona cabinets. Heck, I like the form factor of the 901s on their tulip stands. Anyway, the appearance is as important as the sound, and if it doesn't contribute to the room, it should disappear into it.

Source
I am planning to pair what I have with either an Empire or Garrard (probably 401) or similar TT of their ilk (Lenco, Fairchild, Thorens, etc.) provided I find one in good condition and reasonable distance away (or else high confidence in the seller's packing). The reason why these in specifically is driven a lot by cosmetically matching much of the furniture I have, as well as the reputation of build quality proceeding particularly the Empire. Nonetheless, the right one hasn't come along yet at the right price and condition. When not playing vinyl, I intend to use a Blue Node.

Music
Here's a sample playlist of the kind of music I mostly listen to:
I like that line between classical music rendered with a Moog synth and earlier synthpop, some prog rock, adore Harry Hosono and his associated projects, love lush and layered sounds. My favorite track on there is Sandii's "Zoot Kook".

Space
My house has terrazzo throughout, plaster ceilings, plaster walls covered in wallpaper (largely grasscloth), and some seagrass rugs near the intended place for the system. I have few options as far as walls go, since there are many windows or other openings. The speakers can't be any further than one foot from this wall, or else they'll impede traffic (accounting for the footprint of the rest of the speakers... in other words, the speaker can't exceed 24" depth, in addition to being placed up to 12" from the wall). Ceilings are a tad over 8' throughout.

Options
These only account for options near me (within a few hours drive of 32963) that have a nice appearance, a good reputation, and I can verify they work. I'm budgeting up to $3k for something special, but would prefer to have more money left over for actual music.
  • AR3 (not a)
  • AR11
  • JBL L65a
  • Heathkit AS-103A
  • Bozak B302a
Question
I plan to audition the above, if possible (AR3, AR11, and Heathkit will be auditioned tomorrow), but is there anything else I should keep on my radar, or anything especially I should hold out to hear? Do any of the above sound right for my application, or should I keep looking? What about any of the other mid-size Bozaks?

I appreciate everyone's help and expertise!
 
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Having had the first four on your list, I'd suggest not buying anything until you hear the L65A. Can't comment on the bozak.

If you do have a chance to find a pair of C38 you'll probably love the tone ... but they won't have the L65A bass. I have a pair of C40 with the D130 & 075 and love them, the folded horn adds some low end but they don't match my L65A or L300 (which would certainly check your boxes too if you could find a pair).

Anyway your ears could disagree with mine, either way have fun listening to them all!
 
Check out a pair of Jbl 4430’s.
They’re in the range and are over achievers
Eventually ‘ get a tube amp for the horns.!
And keep the Mac on the woofers.
Actively Crossed over.
Eventually upgrading the vintage Mac
To a newer higher powered model
Bobhorn
 
Having had the first four on your list, I'd suggest not buying anything until you hear the L65A. Can't comment on the bozak.

If you do have a chance to find a pair of C38 you'll probably love the tone ... but they won't have the L65A bass. I have a pair of C40 with the D130 & 075 and love them, the folded horn adds some low end but they don't match my L65A or L300 (which would certainly check your boxes too if you could find a pair).

Anyway your ears could disagree with mine, either way have fun listening to them all!
The L65A is this one, incidentally the only one for sale on Audiomart, and around a 45 minute drive from me: https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650208238-jbl-l65a-pr-speakers/ I've sadly never seen a pair of L300s anywhere remotely close to here, though they have been on my watchlist. Thanks for the advice.
 
Well, ended up with the AR11s. They sounded just like the 3s, but with added bass, which I expected. I also liked the look in my house slightly more than the L65a, which I found too 70s with the glass top, and it would've overwhelmed the space. All sounded quite similar to my ears.

Now, on to the turntable...
 
Congrats! The AR11 is a great speaker. Enjoy and good luck with the turntable decision ... can't really offer any advice there. Loved a small Lenco (B55) I had but no experience with the others on your list. You know, the AR-XA and its descendants (XB / The Turntable / etc.) use the hung subchassis design and you might enjoy one, plus it'll go with the AR11s...
 
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