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Elvis1118

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Hey guys! I have a vinyl question and it stems from a personal favorite album of mine Robert Plant's fate of nations finally getting a vinyl release(it did have a vinyl release back in 1993 but i think it was only in certain countries) it was a record store day special thing and only so many were made and they are a bit pricey on ebay and something that is really making me have second thoughts is the fact that it's a single lp. Fate of nations is a 59 minute album and i would imagine fitting all that onto a single vinyl isn't going to sound good. but i am curious to see if anyone has long single albums like this and what they think.
 
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I have Billy Idol - Cyberpunk. It's CD counterpart time length is 71 minutes, 51 seconds. The dynamics are limited so that more grooves can be fit per side. There is a double LP release of this LP, but I can't find it anymore.
 
The old Columbia Messiah packs it onto 2 micro groove LP's. It need EQ and dynamic range enhancement to be listenable. Each side is like 25+ minutes.
 
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Duke by Genesis has a run time around 63 minutes. I have a UK release on Charisma Records and I heard some distortion on both sides as the needle nears the center.
 
CharlieX said:
Duke by Genesis has a run time around 63 minutes. I have a UK release on Charisma Records and I heard some distortion on both sides as the needle nears the center.
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Should have been 4 short sides, like Joni Mitchell's "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter", a collaboration with Jaco Pastorius that sounds superb.
 
The 1988 Elektra reissue of Metallica’s Kill ‘Em All was about 58 minutes long, and it sounded terrible. It’s not a great sounding record in the first place, but they crushed the low end to fit it all on one LP.
 
Johnny B said:
The 1988 Elektra reissue of Metallica’s Kill ‘Em All was about 58 minutes long, and it sounded terrible. It’s not a great sounding record in the first place, but they crushed the low end to fit it all on one LP.
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Hmmm yea, partly.

Metallica had the engineer kill the bass also as Hetfield and Ulrich hated Newsteads' bass playing.

I heard that even the re-release didnt sound much better in the bass department.
 
slimecity said:
Hmmm yea, partly.

Metallica had the engineer kill the bass also as Hetfield and Ulrich hated Newsteads' bass playing.

I heard that even the re-release didnt sound much better in the bass department.
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Sounds like I didn't miss much ignoring them.
 
slimecity said:
Hmmm yea, partly.

Metallica had the engineer kill the bass also as Hetfield and Ulrich hated Newsteads' bass playing.

I heard that even the re-release didnt sound much better in the bass department.
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Kill ‘Em All was Cliff Burton. In this case, it wasn’t the mix, it was the mastering.

...And Justice for All is a different story. That album was pressed on 2 LPs so that it didn’t have the restricted low-end that the Kill ‘Em All repressing had. That record has low-end, it’s just all from the stacks of rhythm guitars.
 
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Johnny B said:
If you don’t like metal, then no, not really.
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I was moving into prog in the 70s, Kansas and Rush was about as "metal" as I was getting by then.
I was also paying more attention to production SQ and didn't have much patience for incompetently produced crappy sounding recordings, and still find them unappealing in the extreme.
I recall the disappointment over the sound of Death Magnetic by fans who were likely not as demanding, dull, lifeless, dead.
 
Pio1980 said:
I was moving into prog in the 70s, Kansas and Rush was about as "metal" as I was getting by then.
I was also paying more attention to production SQ and didn't have much patience for incompetently produced crappy sounding recordings, and still find them unappealing in the extreme.
I recall the disappointment over the sound of Death Magnetic by fans who were likely not as demanding, dull, lifeless, dead.
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Ahh, yeah. Most of Metallica’s records don’t sound great. Their first was a low budget recording made in 1983 and released on a small label. Like most similar records of its time, it’s a little rough. The LP reissue that I mentioned had two bonus tracks added that brought the length up, making the LP version sound even worse. The next couple were better, but the fourth was the one with the new bass player that got cut out of the mix.

The irony is that their fifth album had actual good production and is the album that significantly expanded their fan base, but then all of the rest of their albums since have been full-on crushed loudness war unlistenable.
 
WaynerN said:
I have Billy Idol - Cyberpunk. It's CD counterpart time length is 71 minutes, 51 seconds. The dynamics are limited so that more grooves can be fit per side. There is a double LP release of this LP, but I can't find it anymore.
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One on ebay right now.
 
WaynerN said:
I have Billy Idol - Cyberpunk. It's CD counterpart time length is 71 minutes, 51 seconds. The dynamics are limited so that more grooves can be fit per side. There is a double LP release of this LP, but I can't find it anymore.
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So, how does the CD sound?
 
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