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Welcome Me to the "Score" Club

I've found that general common knowledge is often misplaced. Remember in the 70s when everyone thought Japanese Electronics were junk?

I have heard many a Sansui speaker that the forums describe as meh, and I found were very good, with the right match of gear. Unless people qualify that the speakers sounded like junk when they ran it off their McIntosh mc-2255, I pretty well have to hear it myself. I have a pair of 1968 Kef Concerto's that were for sale for months. These speakers have beat out many dozens of other speakers in my living room including the likes of Wharfedale, tannoy, infinity, Celestion, Tangent, ads, Advent, ESS, mission, and more. Part of it is because I had my amplification defined and wasn't about to change it, so they were not necessarily paired with the right type of amplification that was best for them. The key word being them, and not necessarily you or I.

Enjoy your new speakers! :rockon:
Great post! Very well stated.
 
I appreciate the feedback, both positive and critical. I'm hardcore enough of a listener to know that these are nowhere near audiophile-level/the "best" speakers on the market - then and now. When listening to music, I listen for subjectively good enough bass/midrange/treble to my ears, in my room and decent imaging - all for relaxed enjoyment. I do not engage in what audiophiles call "critical listening." And I don't mean to offend any such poster here or anywhere else. It's just that I've come across individuals who spend so much time doing the following:

1.) constantly listening for the tiniest detail/nuance, to the point of missing the forest for the trees - e.g. the length of time it took the sound of a cymbal strike to decay, a performer exhaling in front of the mic screen, the brushing of shoe soles across the studio floor, a guitarist running their fingers across the frets, whether or not sand or a pillow was in the kick drum, etc. If you merely happen to notice such details while listening in a relaxed manner and mentally take note of them, that's fine. Sitting in front of the stereo with an 87-degree posture and an etched, furrowed brow after having dismissed family members and household pets while wishing away people/vehicles in close proximity to one's domicile so as to hear the aforementioned details... there's help for that. I've seen it and I'm serious.

2.) seeking non-existent "realism." No matter what the recording is piped through, post-1940/50s, 99% of the time it was a multi-track recording mixed down to two-track stereo unless otherwise indicated. If you were not in the booth with the recording engineer and/or performer(s) you will never hear the performance that took place in those moments in time during the recording session(s). Ever. Period. I realize that to many the pursuit of such is fun, but I've come across some who approach mental instability while trying to "put the performer(s) in the room." Only the transporter on Star Trek could accomplish that. And besides, what happens if they don't remove the equipment/cables/whatever from your listening space? Damage to your walls? Furniture? Windows?

3.) being obsessive about recreating the above-mentioned to the point of cycling through a never-ending parade of loudspeakers/equipment while amassing serious debt/taking out a loan against their home/asset(s). Virtually living on eBay/Craigslist/Audiogon/US Audio List/kijiji/US Audio Mart and stalking thrift stores, garage/estate sales will not recreate what was never really there in the first place. A hobbyist seeking an item or a two with the aim of building a system(s) at their home/garage/boat for relaxed enjoyment is not the same as the horder amassing 40 pairs of speakers (floorstanding, in-wall, underground), 25 AM and/or FM tuners, 20 preamps and amps (solid state or tube), 10 DACS, 12 turntables, 30 pairs of headphones, 14 cassette decks, 10 reel-to-reel decks, nine 8-track players, and five Victrolas so as to have them "just in case."

... so much so that they're not really listening to the music at all. That's the primary reason why I let my subscription to Stereophile lapse years ago, stopped reading The Absolute Sound and such and never looked back. If that type of behavior makes listening more engaging/enjoyable to certain people, they're more than entitled to do so. To me, it sucks the life right out of what most consider a fun activity. In exteme cases, it tips over into what I (unprofessionally) believe to be full-blown Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. To me, it's all about fun and relaxation. If it becomes another task/chore, it's not worth doing.

KDAC, well put, well said. You capture the essence of trying all these speakers that we troll for in our hobby. And the bottom line remains the same. When you hit that sweet spot that makes you stop for a bit, I don't care if it is two days or two months, you have scored. We can get get picky in searching for the audio holy grail, but it will probably mean we pass something by that is really worthy of our attention and probably not costing us tons of money. Keep digging and keep enjoying.
 
If you ever run across a pair of KLH 900Bs, don't hesitate to pick them up. They are one of the best little bookshelves I have heard and can compete with my DCM CX-17s. I agree that KLH did make some good speakers in their later days.
 
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