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What is NOISE...?

Quadman2

Quadman2

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Not sure if this should be asked in the "music forum", but "noise" is just part of sound, and thought it best to handle/discuss here in "OT".


What got me going on this topic, was listening to a Country tune this morning, and it was for me, the closet I've ever heard a Country tune come to something I'd called: "Country Rap". It was "Noise" by Kenny Chesney, a popular Western singer that is followed by quite a few. Take a listen on it and get back to me on this.

The words of his song for me at times, come out in rapid succession like the flow of words found in RAP, but not all the time like in the pure format of RAP.

Then, I started reading the comments on this song "Noise" and it started me thinking about noise in general, based on what others thought of this word and their reactions to noise.

Personally, I like quietness, yet I know of others who just can't stand it! They have to have some background sound happening, like the radio or TV.

So, thought to reach out and find out what YOU consider to be noise? And how you might be effected by it. or how much you can or can't tolerate it. Or what is NOISE to you?

Q
 
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I look at "noise" in this hobby like I view weeds in a garden.

a weed is any plant you don't want growing in your garden. If you want to grow tomatoes, then if peppers popped up, they would be considered a weed.

With our hobby, noise could be either unwanted electrical or mechanical noise or music you don't like.
 
Generally, I consider "noise" to be an unpleasant/unwanted sound like a loud fan, honking of horns, especially if I'm trying to hear something in particular and the "noise" is interfering with the desired sound. I also refer to background sounds like the noise floor of a record or other undesirable sounds as "noise". Rap as well as most music I don't like is "noise". I generally like Jimi Hendrix. His multi-track guitar recording was pretty good. However, "Voo-doo Child" is noise to me. He over did the guitar lines to where it's just a bunch of random sounds so that an actual tune can't be identified.

Noise can also be experienced in ways other than audibly. Like The Skipper mentioned, weeds in the garden are noise. Other visual or aesthetic issues can be noise. It's actually a rather vast word when you think about it.
 
noise?

adele. streisand. carey. adam levine.

Im with the skipper....remove it from the planet.
 
The Kenny Chesney song is him jumping on the bro-country bandwagon. It has little to do with the traditional country he was playing around this town back when he was a college student, other then the ancient old-great/new-bad theme that has long been part of country.

On the other hand, "noise" has been used as a purjorative for some of the more extreme music I enjoy, and like other such terms, has been embraced by the noise music community. We have an active noise music scene here in NE Tennessee, both electronic "power noise" and good old-fashioned beat-on-crap-with-other-crap. In that sense, I like noise.
 
I have significant hearing loss and use hearing aids. I'm just happy to hear any sound, noise or otherwise.

That being said, I enjoy music that pushes the boundaries, including ambient, industrial and electronica. Some people would call much of it noise, but I like to think of it as organized noise.

As I get older, I do notice I enjoy quiet times much more than I used to.
 
Jason Aldean is another redneck rapper. That stuff is pure noise to me, almost as bad as regular (c)rap. It's sad what country music has turned into. I'd MUCH rather listen to the classic honky tonk "crying in your beer" type of country than the new pseudo country.
 
I think we all agree that "noise" is unwanted, irritating, and something that we'd rather avoid. Yet, what some consider noise is something to be enjoyed.

Take the sound of traffic. To some, it's a part of life. A sound of prosperity as the trucks carrying goods and others traveling to work are part of this. For me, having spent most of my life in a rural settings and small towns, I dislike these same sounds.

When it comes to music, some genres end up being noise for me, as some already indicated that certain performers are like noise in their POV's. Yet these same performers are appreciated by others. Who is right? Both. Subjectivity at its finest.

Q
 
beat_truck said:
Jason Aldean is another redneck rapper. That stuff is pure noise to me, almost as bad as regular (c)rap. It's sad what country music has turned into. I'd MUCH rather listen to the classic honky tonk "crying in your beer" type of country than the new pseudo country.
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99.5% of what's on "country" radio anymore is junk. You'll notice, naturally, where my allegiance lies! Just for a good debate, I follow a website on Facebook called Taste of Country. I call them Taste of Bro-Country. All they cover is mainly the new stuff. Very little coverage is given to anything traditional (this is the same site who blasted Billy Graham on the day he passed). That stuff isn't country. I had one person tell me to "get over it" because "your kind of music is dead." No, ma'am, this manure you listen to hijacked the country genre, not the other way around. You have stuff on "country" radio that you can't differentiate from pop, jokers like Aldean rapping, people talking about back roads and pickup trucks constantly, while others have the most awful imaginable twang set to an 80's rock sound. One clown says his woman has a body like a back road. I don't think he's ever been down a back road. Back roads are muddy, dusty, full of potholes, and often are the source of illegal activity!

The one that got me a couple of years ago was name dropping Hank Williams, Sr. I don't know the name of the clown, but in his song he said he'd like to ask Hank why he took those pills in '53. History lesson for the name dropper. Hank died from alcohol abuse and a morphine injection. Second of all, if the name dropper really knew anything, he'd know Hank was most likely dead on New Years Eve of 1952. He was found dead in the early morning hours of New Years Day 1953. I think The Possum summed it up well with this little ditty:

 
Ronald1973 said:
99.5% of what's on "country" radio anymore is junk. You'll notice, naturally, where my allegiance lies! Just for a good debate, I follow a website on Facebook called Taste of Country. I call them Taste of Bro-Country. All they cover is mainly the new stuff. Very little coverage is given to anything traditional (this is the same site who blasted Billy Graham on the day he passed). That stuff isn't country. I had one person tell me to "get over it" because "your kind of music is dead." No, ma'am, this manure you listen to hijacked the country genre, not the other way around. You have stuff on "country" radio that you can't differentiate from pop, jokers like Aldean rapping, people talking about back roads and pickup trucks constantly, while others have the most awful imaginable twang set to an 80's rock sound. One clown says his woman has a body like a back road. I don't think he's ever been down a back road. Back roads are muddy, dusty, full of potholes, and often are the source of illegal activity!

The one that got me a couple of years ago was name dropping Hank Williams, Sr. I don't know the name of the clown, but in his song he said he'd like to ask Hank why he took those pills in '53. History lesson for the name dropper. Hank died from alcohol abuse and a morphine injection. Second of all, if the name dropper really knew anything, he'd know Hank was most likely dead on New Years Eve of 1952. He was found dead in the early morning hours of New Years Day 1953. I think The Possum summed it up well with this little ditty:

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I agree.

I wouldn't even bother arguing with people, though. Let them have that garbage, if that's what they want.:rolleyes: We'll stick to the good, old stuff.

In a way, part of me is glad people don't know what they are missing when it comes to older country music. It means more cheap records for me.:D The major downside of it is the selection on streaming sites like Spotify is really pathetic, especially for certain artists. There's a LOT of good, hard to find country music on Youtube, thankfully.
 
Pimped bikes. Chain saws. Madonna.

Of course, noise in a lot of cases is subjective. Regarding this topic I recommend the fantastic book "Silence" by John Cage.
 
In the Master's own words:

"I believe that the use of noise to make music crease until we reach a music produced through the aid of electrical instruments which will make available for musical purposes any and all sounds that can be heard."
 
Would like to dip into that Taste of Country"...but just have something about any Facebook format. It kinda reminds me of the "Party Line" that I had to put with as a kid, and told NOT to say anything about family or call anyone down. At times I forgot, and paid the price!

And ya know, the beauty of sound is really in the ear of the beholder, but have found out by past teaching episodes that a group can be taught to appreciate certain sounds and genres that previously they did not like. What it took was both patience and good examples followed up by explanations of what make certain sounds worthwhile to listen to. This I did with different genres all the way from medieval, early 1800's during both Great World War periods, right up to the modern era. Many thanked me in later years for taking the time/effort to expose them to how the different arrangements worked, and how lyrics support the melody and sometimes the other way around. Classical was the toughest to get at, as this genre is so vast in depth and complex in make up.

Personally, I think I stopped listening to Country when the sequins hit the stage. These new artists were more concerned with the "flash" than they were connecting with the audience and the content became so contrived. Most were down right plain looking in the past in Country/Western, as apposed to the pretty faces and perfect bodies that you catch on the Country scene of today, eh?

I know music changes, and what we grow up with with we relate better to than new styles and ways of presenting of sound. If the tunes stray too far from what we know and appreciate, they it becomes noise and we change the station or go back to the music we have at hand.

As far as noise is concerned, I'll bet there's more people out there today who would rather endure some sound of noise, rather to to have complete quietness wherein they are left alone with their thoughts. There's even hard research out there that back this POV of mine.

Just a ramble:confused: for today...but that's what what this thread is all about...what is noise and what is not?

Q
 
Don't knock the sequins and rhinestones. Porter Wagoner wore that stuff, designed by Nudie Cohen, back in the day. Of course, he had substance behind the flash.

 
Quadman2 said:
As far as noise is concerned, I'll bet there's more people out there today who would rather endure some sound of noise, rather to to have complete quietness wherein they are left alone with their thoughts.
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You are right about that. My mom is that way with the TV. She has it on 24/7 just for background noise, wether she is paying attention to it or not. I am the complete opposite. If something is on that I don't especially like or am not really interested in, I don't want to hear it at all. Mindless, annoying TV commercials drive me crazy, so much that I hardly watch TV at all anymore. The same goes for music. I'm open to try new music, but If I flat out dislike what I'm hearing, I'd rather have the silence.
 
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