toxcrusadr
Omelette au Fromage
Yes, a pic of the front and rear of the tweeter on the other speaker would help. And any numbers stamped on the back.
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What speakers are these - OOORILL or QOQRILL? 20120724
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alteclipsch
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I had a pair of NAS Squires with black formica on the back a few years ago; they had Electrovoice T35 horn tweeters in them (usually the T35 is harsh and shrill, but Dodrill must have tamed them in the crossover somehow, because they sounded very nice and non-fatiguing). The big midrange horn was an Atlas, the same used in many Klipsches. The T35 is pretty plentiful on eBay, if that's what you need. Yes photos would be good. I wish I hadn't sold my pair, they were fantastic, but I had to choose between them and Altec 846As, unfortunately a no-brainer.
I will post a pic ASAP. The front horn looks similar to a klipsch horn tweeter. It’s metal black in center with polished edges the driver on the back is approx four to five inches in dia. Will have to disassemble to get it removed. Have not used in about fifteen years. Found this forum and thread and I would like to get them fixed so I may utilize them. Even with the one tweeter gone they sound superb!! Thank you all for your assistance. Very much appreciated. Will check out the T35 to see if that is possibly it. Thanks again!
alteclipsch
Super Member
Are you looking to replace the tweeters with different ones or T35s. There's a T35a on eBay right now. Also possible that there's a bad capacitor in the crossover. Imo, that route should be taken first.
You could also check with Bob Crites for upgrading both the tweeter and the caps. He's the Klipsch expert and would have knowledge about what you have there.
You could also check with Bob Crites for upgrading both the tweeter and the caps. He's the Klipsch expert and would have knowledge about what you have there.
alteclipsch
Super Member
Just open an account on eBay and bid the max you're willing to pay. Most folks familiar with the process bid in the last few seconds to try and beat the last minute rush. If you're patient, you'll find them, they're pretty common.
Could anyone offer advice on how to go about selecting a replacement woofer for the NAS Studio Monitors? What specifications are important to match?
I realize that trying to match could be difficult. I have located a pair of Studio Monitors, but the owner installed some cheap replacement woofers.
I realize that trying to match could be difficult. I have located a pair of Studio Monitors, but the owner installed some cheap replacement woofers.
I just found this site. it is good to hear all the history about North American Sound. My first major speaker buy was a pair of the Monitors that NAS built. Went to Gregs house to get them. They had the 6x9 woofer and little tweeter. when friends heard them and then see it had a 6x9 they couldn't believe it. Later traded them back and got the Squires. I still have these. Just wanted to say thanks for the information about them.
I too bought my NAS Squire speakers (41 & 1/2" tall w/12" woofers, horn midrange & tweeter, walnut veneer cabinets, round velcro grill snaps) from Greg Dodrill in the late 70's or early 80's - I believe I paid around $800. I went to his house where he built & demonstrated the speakers. As posted before, he had other speakers, including Klipsch, set up along with his speakers and he would switch back an forth among them - his speakers had (to me) an incredibly clear and open sound - better than all of the competitors. He was a real perfectionist and an interesting guy. I still have those speakers today and they still sound great! Best investment I ever made, considering the many hours of pleasurable listening over the last 40 or so years. I often wonder if he is still around and what he is doing these days. Thanks to everyone for the great information!
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alteclipsch
Super Member
Every time someone revives thread I kick myself for selling my Squires. No room, but still. They're just great speakers.
BTW, the rear slots in your images are unlike mine. I had just a hole in the back, about 6" x 6" and the speaker wire came out of that hole. No slots like yours.
BTW, the rear slots in your images are unlike mine. I had just a hole in the back, about 6" x 6" and the speaker wire came out of that hole. No slots like yours.
Bikemiddaugh
New Member
PanTerra: my first time to post on here. I was one of Greg's first customers. In fact, I purchased the prototype Studio Monitor with the 15 inch woofer. Prior to that I had Greg's smaller horn speaker. I still talk about Greg's speakers to this day. Absolutely outstanding. A friend of mine called this morning...he just pulled his out of storage. They are 42 years old...he pulled them out because he's thought of selling them. He called and said he's amazed by the sound. I don't think he'll sell.
Bikemiddaugh
New Member
I the late 80's I ran the manufacturing part of the company North American Sound in Dallas, Texas. The Owner was Greg Dodrill. I also designed their logo (see attached). We manufactured three different speaker systems. The "Monitor", the "Squire" and the "Studio Monitor". The top of the line was the Studio Monitor with the Squire being a step down. The Squire was 46x15x16 with a 12” woofer. The Studio Monitor was a 54x15x20 behemoth that garnered a 15" woofer. Both of these two designs had the same identical vertically mounted midrange horn and a horn tweeter. The biggest seller however was the Monitor. They were 36x13x12. The early monitors also touted a vertically mounted 6”x9” speaker and a dome tweeter. You could also custom order a 48" tall Monitor to be used as back channels in a 4 speaker system. The 6”x9” woofers were Toby's from Ft. Worth. In later days the 6”x9”’s were replaced by 8" speakers. All of these speakers could be custom ordered in Formica (Black, Walnut, Ash) or oiled wood veneer in Walnut or Ash.
If you find these speakers with round grill attachments then they are early models. One of the first things I had to solve when I took over production was the problems with the round speaker attachments. They were prone to popping off the grill if not aligned properly. We switched to a square 3M attachment system that did not have the issue. We had a showroom on Northwest HWY and I35. We had some other stores but I can't remember exactly where. We did have one in Fayetteville, Arkansas.
I left the company when they started having serious money problems and I believe the company finally went under. The speakers shown above (Mystery) are definitely NAS Monitors. I have never seen the "Dodrill" name plate. My only guess is that NAS went under (creditor problems) and Dodrill went back to selling the speakers out of his house on Campbell Road, Dallas (that's where I first bought my pair of Studio Monitors) and branded the speakers with the “Dodrill” logo. However, this is purely speculation on my part.
Just some back story on the speakers. We used to have a showroom where we would put Klipsch and Altec Lansing speakers, among others, and AB them against the NAS speakers. The NAS speakers would put down the others quite easily based on the sonic purity. We had a special switcher built were we could equalize the sound pressure levels so all of the speakers were playing at the same sound level. We would even put a meter on a tripod and set it in front of the buyer to show that efficiency was not a factor. That they were only hearing the difference between the "sound" of each speaker system. The NAS speakers were pretty damn impressive.
We also manufactured "Fuseliers" for John Fuselier. John even designed a Fuselier/Monitor hybrid but as far as I know it never went into production. Or at least it never did before I left the company when they went under. Hope this sheds some light.
Bikemiddaugh
New Member
I the late 80's I ran the manufacturing part of the company North American Sound in Dallas, Texas. The Owner was Greg Dodrill. I also designed their logo (see attached). We manufactured three different speaker systems. The "Monitor", the "Squire" and the "Studio Monitor". The top of the line was the Studio Monitor with the Squire being a step down. The Squire was 46x15x16 with a 12” woofer. The Studio Monitor was a 54x15x20 behemoth that garnered a 15" woofer. Both of these two designs had the same identical vertically mounted midrange horn and a horn tweeter. The biggest seller however was the Monitor. They were 36x13x12. The early monitors also touted a vertically mounted 6”x9” speaker and a dome tweeter. You could also custom order a 48" tall Monitor to be used as back channels in a 4 speaker system. The 6”x9” woofers were Toby's from Ft. Worth. In later days the 6”x9”’s were replaced by 8" speakers. All of these speakers could be custom ordered in Formica (Black, Walnut, Ash) or oiled wood veneer in Walnut or Ash.
If you find these speakers with round grill attachments then they are early models. One of the first things I had to solve when I took over production was the problems with the round speaker attachments. They were prone to popping off the grill if not aligned properly. We switched to a square 3M attachment system that did not have the issue. We had a showroom on Northwest HWY and I35. We had some other stores but I can't remember exactly where. We did have one in Fayetteville, Arkansas.
I left the company when they started having serious money problems and I believe the company finally went under. The speakers shown above (Mystery) are definitely NAS Monitors. I have never seen the "Dodrill" name plate. My only guess is that NAS went under (creditor problems) and Dodrill went back to selling the speakers out of his house on Campbell Road, Dallas (that's where I first bought my pair of Studio Monitors) and branded the speakers with the “Dodrill” logo. However, this is purely speculation on my part.
Just some back story on the speakers. We used to have a showroom where we would put Klipsch and Altec Lansing speakers, among others, and AB them against the NAS speakers. The NAS speakers would put down the others quite easily based on the sonic purity. We had a special switcher built were we could equalize the sound pressure levels so all of the speakers were playing at the same sound level. We would even put a meter on a tripod and set it in front of the buyer to show that efficiency was not a factor. That they were only hearing the difference between the "sound" of each speaker system. The NAS speakers were pretty damn impressive.
We also manufactured "Fuseliers" for John Fuselier. John even designed a Fuselier/Monitor hybrid but as far as I know it never went into production. Or at least it never did before I left the company when they went under. Hope this sheds some light.
Bikemiddaugh
New Member
Polygrinder...do you still visit the site? I was the first to purchase the Studio Monitor. The prototype was unfinished. My friend bought the first finished pair. His have been store and are for sale at this time.
lmzuk
Fuma
Looks like a pair of North American Sound (NAS) Studio Monitors are up on eBay a little south of Dallas TX. I purchased a pair a few months back in Dallas TX “local pickup only“ and had a packing and freighting company pick them up, pack them, and ship to Eastern PA for < $800. I have both the Squires and Studio Monitors (below), they are truly amazing speakers.
