Which One To Keep??
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gillsev
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What do you think of this Dual 1009 platter mat? Looks like a compatible size?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUAL-1009-RUBBER-PLATTER-MAT-FOR-TURNTABLE-ORIGINAL-PART-/290625912703?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item43aaa77f7f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUAL-1009-RUBBER-PLATTER-MAT-FOR-TURNTABLE-ORIGINAL-PART-/290625912703?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item43aaa77f7f
gillsev
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Yeah might be short. But thanks for the offer.
On second thought, I could sell the Type A with its long spindle and just keep the manual spindle for my A70 :yes:
I'd do that --Sorry I couldn't help.
Well I'm going to mosey on ---I'll be watching this thread --Take Care.
gillsev
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No problem James. Thanks for all the help. But do give me a holler if you find me an original A70 platter mat.
doh, you did say A-70. I was thinking Model 70, which is a drop spindle.
gillsev
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Yup A70 :yes:
It is NOT missing. It is flipped back, sitting down on the pusher platform housing, out of the way as it should be when loading records or removing them. This has the newer, diamond-shaped cross-section with a rubber insert for cushioning where it rests on the stack of records.
The original Type A had the type with the round cross-section and rubber rings for cushioning; it didn't sit down all the way down when flipped back, because with the Type A's newly restyled pusher platform housing, Garrard re-used the same hold-down part that had been on the RC88, with a different paint color. The newer type, which remained unchanged through the A70 and the 70 Mk II, was introduced with the Type AII.
There are Garrard advertisements from the 1962 selling season that show a hybrid Type A: the grey color and trim-ring mat of the Type AII but no transit screws; and with the old-type record hold-down and suspension springs with built-in leveling provision of the original Type A. It may be a handmade prototype sample built for the Advertising Department.
With luck you may find a good mat for your A70, with unperished rubber. The condition of the mat seems to depend upon the conditions under which it was stored. The one on my A70 was cracked in the middle and simply installing or removing it risked tearing or cracking it even worse. To use it I cut a round hole to clear the center boss on the platter. To hold it down I cut a piece of black "Foamies" material from the craft store; it fits under the center boss and its outer diameter is cut so that it overlaps the old, aged mat just short of the concentrically-ribbed section, thus holding it down. On my old, original Type A the mat with the moulded-in "Garrard" script shattered into a pile of black rubber shards, so it is completely replaced by a piece of that same Foamies material, cut to install exactly as the original mat. These models do not need a heavy rubber mat to damp the platter, as does the Lab 80, because with the "sandwich" platter design, the two platters with their different resonant frequencies damp each other.
On both my A70 and Type A, the original foam pads between the inner and outer platter have crumbled to dust; flexible, web-like shelf liner from the Dollar Tree store is a viable and cheap replacement.
And, oh yes...I, too, say KEEP 'EM BOTH!
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gillsev
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Well, the GuruP49 says keep 'em both 
But I'm only gonna use one of them.
In that case, I'll put the Type A on my archive display shelf.
The deal on the mat fell through. The guy wants to make more money on shipping than the item itself. Forget it!
I found a better one that will just fit the center hole right ... I just hope I win it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380457065940?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
But I'm only gonna use one of them.
In that case, I'll put the Type A on my archive display shelf.
The deal on the mat fell through. The guy wants to make more money on shipping than the item itself. Forget it!
I found a better one that will just fit the center hole right ... I just hope I win it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380457065940?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
I have owned Garrards, starting with an Autoslim, from just after my high school days. Then I worked on and off as an audio technician, sometimes part time for spare change, sometimes full time, from around 1972 until well after Garrard as a major hi-fi turntable maker was gone.
I got started in that line of work as a student...with Garrards. Where I was attending college, there was a used stereo store. The owner would tinker with what he could, but had to give up on some things which he would throw into his backroom. One day I saw a pile of eight Garrards, all of them built on the Autoslim chassis (AT60, SL55, Model 40, etc.) which he considered his junk pile. I asked if I could fiddle around with them and made six good ones out of the eight junkers.
I always had higher-than-normal mechanical acumen. Later when I worked part-time in a bigger shop, the record changers and reel-to-reel tape machines would be saved for me to work on! And Garrard has always held a special interest for me, fortunately long enough ago to have bought my current everyday Garrard 301 for $30.
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KentTeffeteller
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Nice looking. Nice job. I think this model was best of the pre Lab 80 Garrard changers. Always liked them and they were well built and reliable. I liked them with medium mass 2-3 gram tracking force workhorse cartridges. Stanton 500 and 600 cartridges or their Pickering cousins worked great in them.