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jgannon said:
Well sure, you can go ahead and do something like this...but - PTOMAINE!!

Some sad sounding stuff...

I also think drummer Jimmy Cobb is too kind.



http://online.wsj.com/articles/miles-daviss-jazz-masterpiece-kind-of-blue-is-redone-1412699010
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Very interesting and yes, controversial. Thanks for the post. Jimmy Cobb has succinctly commented on the project with an interesting perspective:

After listening to a few songs from “Blue,” drummer Jimmy Cobb, the only surviving member of the “Kind of Blue” sextet, agreed. “These guys are proficient—I thought they were us at first—but I don’t hear the human part, the individual sound and feel I lived with on those sessions,” he said. “But, hey, classical has been doing this for centuries—playing the notes someone else wrote. If these guys took the time to do this, the music must mean something to them.”
 
Makes me think of the Fab Faux, who I love, actually... Not sure how I feel about this though... Jazz is all about individual expression and improvisation, and that's the way I play guitar. I don't work my solos out in advance and then sight-read from charts. I just do it, and whatever comes out comes out. And that's when I'm at my best. Wingin' it, you know?
 
"Tribute" bands are wildly successful in area clubs. The people who go say they sound "just like the real thing."
Not my thing :no:
 
Their doing the same thing to the music as they do the old movies. That's why I don't have cable TV or satellite and don't have a tuner in my system. I think I'll go live in a cave.
 
This touches on a subject about which I've wondered and even started a thread long ago. Originality is paramount when something new first happens, but how much does it really matter later?

If it does matter later, then it seems to me that the listener is placing importance on something beyond the sound, which is OK but flies in the face of the audiophile mantra that the sound is everything.
 
Valveglow said:
Very interesting and yes, controversial. Thanks for the post. Jimmy Cobb has succinctly commented on the project with an interesting perspective:

After listening to a few songs from “Blue,” drummer Jimmy Cobb, the only surviving member of the “Kind of Blue” sextet, agreed. “These guys are proficient—I thought they were us at first—but I don’t hear the human part, the individual sound and feel I lived with on those sessions,” he said. “But, hey, classical has been doing this for centuries—playing the notes someone else wrote. If these guys took the time to do this, the music must mean something to them.”
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I think Cobb misses the point quite frankly, on this. It's one thing to play a composition and interpret it. Here we have a situation where some musicians are playing by rote, improvisations. The comping, drums, and bass lines are improvised as well. You are never going to play with the feeling, what a musician improvised. These guys aren't even close.

There is no problem with learning someone's solo, to understand it and see where a player was coming from. But to make it the end of what you are doing, seems to belie for me, a superficiality on the part of the musicians involved here, as to what creating and playing music is about. If these guys, can actually cut the notes and chords that were laid down by the original musicians, then these guys have done a little studying. You would think that if they have put that much time into learning music, they might be on a musical level, which would lead them to scoff at doing something like this. And in IMO, if someone can't hear the light years of difference between the original music and whatever this stuff is, they should go back and listen again!
 
jgannon said:
There is no problem with learning someone's solo, to understand it and see where a player was coming from. But to make it the end of what you are doing, seems to belie for me, a superficiality on the part of the musicians involved here, as to what creating and playing music is about. If these guys, can actually cut the notes and chords that were laid down by the original musicians, then these guys have done a little studying. You would think that if they have put that much time into learning music, they might be on a musical level, which would lead them to scoff at doing something like this. And in IMO, if someone can't hear the light years of difference between the original music and whatever this stuff is, they should go back and listen again!
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What he said!:thmbsp:
 
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