janikphoto
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A pair of magnavox 175's bi-amping your Cornwalls or a single Dynaco st-70 running them. Technically, it'll be on some NAS studio monitors, but they are similar to the Cornwalls.
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sheltie dave
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I have heard both on these speakers, and neither did a great job. A Consonance 211 sounded superb on them, like angels singing.
janikphoto
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Geez... I like my st-70 on them at the moment. I can't imagine that I'm enjoying such a lackluster pairing. I picked up a second 175, so that's why I'm tempted to use them bi-amping the speakers. My first plan was to bi-amp with a second st-70, but I just can't find one within my budget.
hunter00
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Dynaco st70 would sound great on those speakers as long as it was refurbished with nice nos el-34's.If you want mono's pushing them a pair of dynaco mk iv would up the channel separation somewhat and increase the bass some,Im listening to mine as I type this,and my EV speakers are close to the same efficientcy as yours.
I get more out of my mono amps with their own PT' s per channel then stand alone tube amps or integrated.
I get more out of my mono amps with their own PT' s per channel then stand alone tube amps or integrated.
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sheltie dave
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Sorry I answered. It was a question, wasn't it?
janikphoto
Lunatic Member
I'm not saying don't answer... but, I don't have the ability to scrap what I have. I was more hoping for you to choose one or the other of what's available... not suggest that both will sound bad - especially, when I'm currently very impressed by the single st-70 on these NAS speakers. But, maybe you are right, maybe I am missing out on so much more by not trying something completely different.
battradio
Electron trainer
The output transformers are much better on the ST-70 than the 175 , so unless they are changed , the ST-70 has the better potential when updated .
The secret to to getting the 175 / 185 sounding good is to make a screen supply for the 6V6GT's , a 10 k 1 watt resistor and 47 uf 450 volt cap .
This feed back network works the best for both channel .
I use 470 UF caps except for the first one
The secret to to getting the 175 / 185 sounding good is to make a screen supply for the 6V6GT's , a 10 k 1 watt resistor and 47 uf 450 volt cap .
This feed back network works the best for both channel .
I use 470 UF caps except for the first one
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hybrid answer, maybe both? The extra power of the ST70 and the better transformers would give it better bass response. The 175 should be fine up top though, and even with less power, it usually works out OK for the HF amp to be a fair bit less powerful. If both amps were available, I'd surely be willing to try that setup.
sheltie dave
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Please note I didn't say bad, you did.
One of the big problems here at AK is too often people settle for less than they can attain. I have white haired friends who note it is better to have thoroughly pedestrian gear, IF you don't spend money at all for a year, and then get something that is a true killer.
Taking three or four baby steps is more costly and time wasting, than being disciplined, biding your time, and then getting something remarkable. These NAS speakers are a different beast with high flying SET amps, and at a price level of three or four ST70s, used.
One of the big problems here at AK is too often people settle for less than they can attain. I have white haired friends who note it is better to have thoroughly pedestrian gear, IF you don't spend money at all for a year, and then get something that is a true killer.
Taking three or four baby steps is more costly and time wasting, than being disciplined, biding your time, and then getting something remarkable. These NAS speakers are a different beast with high flying SET amps, and at a price level of three or four ST70s, used.
battradio
Electron trainer
i have had the best sounding 175 recently on the bench here with the stock output transformers and a modified ST-70 with a Diy-tube driver board by Shannon parks and it was markedly better accross the spectrum .
My personal ST-70 uses 6B4G triodes and much better than one with EL34's with my Cornwall's .
when you compare a supped up Chevy with a Ferrari one isn't putting do the Chevy because it is not as fast .
My best PP triode amps sound's better than the St-70 with triodes
and have had that at sheltie dave's house , but the output transformers on that cost more than a working ST-70 .
My personal ST-70 uses 6B4G triodes and much better than one with EL34's with my Cornwall's .
when you compare a supped up Chevy with a Ferrari one isn't putting do the Chevy because it is not as fast .
My best PP triode amps sound's better than the St-70 with triodes
and have had that at sheltie dave's house , but the output transformers on that cost more than a working ST-70 .
sheltie dave
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Yep, if you want good, there is no shame to your game.
If you want great, stop playing around, save your money, and then spring when you can. Mark's rodded ST70 is superb, but then again it is in the three ST70 price range +. Great costs money, but the NASs can sound great.
If you want great, stop playing around, save your money, and then spring when you can. Mark's rodded ST70 is superb, but then again it is in the three ST70 price range +. Great costs money, but the NASs can sound great.
janikphoto
Lunatic Member
I'm just excited to hear do much NAS love! I know they are a speaker that flies under most radars.
janikphoto
Lunatic Member
Well, maybe I'll use the Maggies in a different project then. I picked them up, because there's so much talk about modding them and loving them. I guess it's like all the Mustang talk. It's a fun car to mod and play with, but not a Ferrari.
