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Yard Sale Score? Thorens TT Cart-Needle Amplifier-PICS

GD70

GD70

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Hi All,

I picked up a pair of DCM Time windows, and the guy threw this in to make the deal. He said the table was trashed due to moisture damage, but still had this amp that powered the Cart & Needle. He bought it from the guy who built them. So what's the deal on this? Couldn't find anything on the web.
EDIT-Found this. Interesting.
http://www.vinylengine.com/library/mitchell-a-cotter/spt.shtml

Glenn




 
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I would second that.

The text of that link is clearly Chinglish but getting through to the meaning it looks that way from the link as well.

If you have no need of it you might get a couple of bucks for it on ebay. Or you might be tempted to try a moving coil cartridge on you current turntable. You would already have the Step Up Trnasformer for it.

Have fun with it.

Shelly_D
 
So does the "S" sticker on the bottom indicate that it is a "Type S: for pickups with impedances of 20-100 ohms and greater eg Denon, Satin and Fidelity Research?"
 
I thought that electric blue step up looked familiar, like all of the Mitch Cotters equipment it's the same blue, you may have unknowingly reeled in quite a big fish in that transaction.
 
That is a highly desirable step up trans...Cotter. At one time it was considered the best available.

Type S is for 20-100 ohm cartridges....very popular range, e.g. Denons

Better score than the DCMs! Much rarer at least.
 
Hmmmm...

I'll have to do more digging on this and see how I should proceed.

Moving coil carts are expensive.

Thanks for the info gents!

Glenn
 
You should proceed to tell the guy you don't care how beat up the table is; you would like to take it and the cartridge.
 
jgordon said:
You should proceed to tell the guy you don't care how beat up the table is; you would like to take it and the cartridge.
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I would second this. It takes a lot to kill a cartridge, I've pulled perfectly good ones off of some really trashed tables. I've also pulled several perfectly good (if filthy) tables out of plinths that were completely ruined due to basement humidity. It's possible that the drive system and arm from that Thorens are perfectly workable, if in need of restoration.
 
I'll have to go back next weekend and see if he still has the table.

So in the meantime, how does this actually hook up to the table? Table RCA's connect to the amp, the cables from the amp connect to the amp/receiver I would assume?
 
Turntable -> SUT -> amplifier, you just add the step-up transformer into the signal chain between turntable and amp.
 
GD70 you may have realized by now that the SUT may be well above your present equipment. Along with people like Nelson Pass Mitch Cotter created some of the first truly high end audiophile equipment. From what I remember reading Mitch Cotters creations were intended for recording studios and audiophiles that could afford the best equipment available. To benefit from the SUT your going to need a revealing high end preamp/amp/speakers/turntable/MC cartridge. As another AK member suggested you might want to consider finding a new home for the SUT where it can be put to good use with like equipment.
 
majick47 said:
GD70 you may have realized by now that the SUT may be well above your present equipment. Along with people like Nelson Pass Mitch Cotter created some of the first truly high end audiophile equipment. From what I remember reading Mitch Cotters creations were intended for recording studios and audiophiles that could afford the best equipment available. To benefit from the SUT your going to need a revealing high end preamp/amp/speakers/turntable/MC cartridge. As another AK member suggested you might want to consider finding a new home for the SUT where it can be put to good use with like equipment.
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I just showed my co-worker pics of this. "Oh yeah, the Blue Brick". He worked in Cotter's plant in Mt. Vernon, NY when these were being made, around 1980. Said he was a crazy man! They made about 20 or so a week by hand. He said there's windings behind the black plate, they would add or cut to them for the intended cart, sold for $500-600.00. Pure silver wires. Very interesting, and a small world! He thinks he has some literature on these as well.

So for now, I'm holding on to this, save for a better cart & TT, unless the guy I got it from still has the trashed TT. Seems this is a rare piece.

Amazing the things you can stumble on when you ask.

Glenn
 
shelly_d said:
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If you have no need of it you might get a couple of bucks for it on ebay.
Shelly_D
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Understatement of the year. Couple thousand is more like it. Similarly regarded modern SUTs sell for $5000. And there should be nothing to wear out; it should be as good as new.

If you don't at least listen to it, count me disappointed! :D
 
sqlsavior said:
Understatement of the year. Couple thousand is more like it. Similarly regarded modern SUTs sell for $5000. And there should be nothing to wear out; it should be as good as new.

If you don't at least listen to it, count me disappointed! :D
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More like 1K, still sexy!!!
 
If they see this thread there will be a broker on the way from Japan with a suitcase full of Yen looking to buy that SUT.
 
As others have said, the Verion SPT1 was considered the best MC SUT by a lot of people, and cost about as much as some high class turntables near or at the top of the respective manufacturers' lineups. It's very desirable.:tresbon:
 
I'm probably more in the 1K camp on this SUT. Luxman made silver wound transformers in three ratios and these sell on the bay for 7-800. These units can be plugged into some of their preamps and amps or into a stand alone box to allow use with other gear. Should be similar in performance.

http://www.thevintageknob.org/luxman-AD8000.html
 
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