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Zenith Allegro 3000 Speakers - Surprising!

Is the back not removable so you can investigate inside? If the buzz is coming from the woofer then yes, I would return them. Those Allegro 3000s are easy to come by. The 2000 (8" woofer, same tweeter) less common, but sound very nice too, perhaps better in some ways than the 3000. You'll likely come across a chance (or more) at another pair.
The backs are removable, but the screws are held in so tight that I literally can't budge them at all.
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I've literally never ever seen a pair of Allegros in-person until the day I bought them (Nov. 21st), at least here in the PNW, and I think they sound great, with good low-end from my room gain. So I kinda want to keep them although the $90 return could be better spent on a different pair of speakers. Hmmm...:idea:
 
Well IDK, maybe the PNW is different. But they are on Ebay all the time. In central Indiana I paid $10 each for two pairs of the 3000's and got the 2000s virtually free as part of a large group buy where the guy just wanted to clear out what he considered to be junk (some of it was) and all I traded was one beat-up guitar distortion box. So my 3 pairs of Allegros cost me roughly $21. Ebay sellers typically ask too-high prices, and TBH, I would never pay $90 for a pair no matter how nice their condition.

If there is a problem with the woofer then IMO it is no-brainer...get your money back while you can. For your good money you shouldn't live the the problem as it exists and, more importantly, it could get worse. Thus far it has been a pleasant experience in listening and learning. There will be more and (some will be) better opportunities further down the road. In an 8x8 room, any 10" woofer, or most any 8" likely, will give you as much bass as you want.

As for removing the backs, which I did suggest before, having seen that pic above the back appears to be very tightly fit against the sides. Even if you get the screws out, my guess is that some damage would occur to the particle board when removing the back, either to the back itself or the ends of the sides. So no, I do not think you should remove the back now. Damage it and you lose the ability to return it.
 
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Well IDK, maybe the PNW is different. But they are on Ebay all the time. In central Indiana I paid $10 each for two pairs of the 3000's and got the 2000s virtually free as part of a large group buy where the guy just wanted to clear out what he considered to be junk (some of it was) and all I traded was one beat-up guitar distortion box. So my 3 pairs of Allegros cost me roughly $21. Ebay sellers typically ask too-high prices, and TBH, I would never pay $90 for a pair no matter how nice their condition.

If there is a problem with the woofer then IMO it is no-brainer...get your money back while you can. For your good money you shouldn't live the the problem as it exists and, more importantly, it could get worse. Thus far it has been a pleasant experience in listening and learning. There will be more and (some will be) better opportunities further down the road. In an 8x8 room, any 10" woofer, or most any 8" likely, will give you as much bass as you want.

As for removing the backs, which I did suggest before, having seen that pic above the back appears to be very tightly fit against the sides. Even if you get the screws out, my guess is that some damage would occur to the particle board when removing the back, either to that back itself or the ends of the sides. So no, I do not think you should remove the back now. Damage it and you lose the ability to return it.
I see. Of course the fact that I can't remove the backs, let alone the covers leads me to make the decision to return them the next time that I visit the record store and get my refund. :)
 
@Romeo Wolf

There is one other thing to consider. Ample bass can cause items in a room, or the window glass even, to buzz, vibrate, or rattle. You may have mentioned that these Allegros were the first speakers that gave you a lot of bass. And your listening space is small. So it could be possible that something external to the speaker is what you are hearing.

If you are certain that the buzz is coming directly from one of the woofers, then disregard. If you are not certain, report back here and I can give you testing suggestions.
 
@Romeo Wolf

There is one other thing to consider. Ample bass can cause items in a room, or the window glass even, to buzz, vibrate, or rattle. You may have mentioned that these Allegros were the first speakers that gave you a lot of bass. And your listening space is small. So it could be possible that something external to the speaker is what you are hearing.

If you are certain that the buzz is coming directly from one of the woofers, then disregard. If you are not certain, report back here and I can give you testing suggestions.
I've tested the allegros at both lower and higher volumes, and even at a barely perceptible volume, the buzzing can still be heard. I've also pressed my ear against the cover in front of the woofer cone, and it's definitely directly coming from that woofer.
 
I've tested the allegros at both lower and higher volumes, and even at a barely perceptible volume, the buzzing can still be heard. I've also pressed my ear against the cover in front of the woofer cone, and it's definitely directly coming from that woofer.

Return them
 
Folks,
Out of curiosity, I'm thinking of picking up a pair of Allegro 3000 speakers for $30. I don't need another pair of speakers really (I have two pairs of B&W DM12's and 2 pairs of DCM time windows), but I am curious to hear if there's anything I'm missing out on regarding the tweeter folks have talked about. Are the 3000's genuinely something worth seeking out for $30, or are they only decent compared to how low everyone's expectations of them are before hearing them?
 
Folks,
Out of curiosity, I'm thinking of picking up a pair of Allegro 3000 speakers for $30. I don't need another pair of speakers really (I have two pairs of B&W DM12's and 2 pairs of DCM time windows), but I am curious to hear if there's anything I'm missing out on regarding the tweeter folks have talked about. Are the 3000's genuinely something worth seeking out for $30, or are they only decent compared to how low everyone's expectations of them are before hearing them?
With a bit of crossover work, bracing and acoustical filling (like polyfill), they will whip the asses of speakers considered way better. Definitely worth considering for $30.
 
I'm comfortable with the bracing and filing, but I'll have to research the crossover work. My soldering skills have been pretty hit and miss. Thanks for the quick response!
 
Folks,
Out of curiosity, I'm thinking of picking up a pair of Allegro 3000 speakers for $30. I don't need another pair of speakers really (I have two pairs of B&W DM12's and 2 pairs of DCM time windows), but I am curious to hear if there's anything I'm missing out on regarding the tweeter folks have talked about. Are the 3000's genuinely something worth seeking out for $30, or are they only decent compared to how low everyone's expectations of them are before hearing them?

I own McIntosh XRT20 line arrays, Ohm Walsh 300mk2's, and many other respected speakers.

However, what I heard at my friend's house recently, powered by a Nakamichi A/V receiver that isn't anything special, was nothing short of glorious.

Perfect No such thing. Damned good at any price? Absolutely.

A very entertaining speaker that isn't without its faults, and certainly has nothing to be ashamed about.

At 30 bucks and a little labor, I'd do it.
 
I own McIntosh XRT20 line arrays, Ohm Walsh 300mk2's, and many other respected speakers.
At 30 bucks and a little labor, I'd do it.

From what I've read, there's a few different versions of the 3000's. Am I correct in thinking I want to be looking for the ones with the removable grilles? I have seen some photos where the Allegro's have red/white bare speaker cable inputs, and some that have a fixed cable that ends in something looking like an RCA plug. If the ones I get have the RCA ends, is it hard to modify that to connect to a typical amp? Also, what happens if I connect the Allegros to a 100W amp? I see they're rated for less than that, but I wasn't sure if that meant more power would damage them.

Thanks,
Tony
 
More power with proper restraint will be fine.

Both pair apparently have the same or similar drivers. The pair I've heard and helped modify have the removable grill.
 
More power with proper restraint will be fine.

Both pair apparently have the same or similar drivers. The pair I've heard and helped modify have the removable grill.


Yeah I think they changed woofers quite often, but in the end they were VERY similar in actual performance. I have seen about 4-5 variations of the "Zenith" 10" woofer, but all sound VERY similar in the end. Square and round magnets, different baskets etc...
 
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