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Zu Audio Speakers...Not a Discussion!

I would suggest auditioning a single driver speaker before buying one unheard. They have their pros and cons and I have heard the Zu Audio Speakers a LOT over the last couple of years. They're not for me.

I've auditioned the Omen floorstander and the Essence mostly with 4 different tube amp manufacturers and a different one at CAS 2012. The Zu Dealer here who sells the tube amps wound up bringing his personal set of ATC SCM 150s in because too many people were put off by the Zu Audio sound and he needed something else to demonstrate. This is in no way a knock on Zu but they have their sound and it may not appeal to you.

There is bass which is the good news for the single driver speakers but they also sound washed out thin and lean compared to the ATC SCM 150 (Albeit this is a $20,000US loudspeaker). Still I find them wearing on longer auditions. The first time I heard them I raved they were so great etc etc - but since then on longer sessions I've been less thrilled. There isn't much dynamic fullness and they exhibit a flat washed out quality as if instead of providing the full dynamic they compress instead. Their up front in your face sound is initially impressive. Single drivers have great immediacy - and you gravitate to this initially. The SCM 150 is a 3 way classic speaker (and isn't as cohesive) but nevertheless it does everything else much better.

On the flip side they sound cohesive and on vocals that's a big plus - kind of like panels in this regard. I think Teresonic sounds a heckuva lot better but they unfortunately cost a heckuva lot more money.
 
As I've said before set up is extremely critical for the unorthodox bottom ported Zu's. Plop them down at a hotel audio showroom without regard to those small bottom finger ports and you're not going to get their best.

The Zu recommendation of having them close enough to the floor to barely allow a CD case to slide underneath is just wrong. I've never heard them at an audio show but if they're set up the way Zu recommends I doubt I'd like them either.

Zu uses heavily doped cones which need months to break-in.

In the $1000 -$1500 range the Zu Omen has little competition other than it's kissing cousin Tekton Lore.
 
I'll try anything once :) Just worked out a deal on a pair of Zu Audio Soul Superfly's in the walnut finish. Can't wait to finally hear the Zu's in my room and decide for myself if the "Zu sound" is for me!



I'm thinking about possibly using the 4" Mapleshade platforms that I have under them - I would need to get 2 new feet so that they're level instead of angled back. Wonder if they'd pair well together...
 
Cool beans. Use 'em straight up before trying the mapleshade platform. Definitely don't want to tilt them, like you said. Looking forward to your findings.
 
@ livestrong

Did you get rid of the Gallos or are you just trying something else for a bit.
 
@ livestrong

Did you get rid of the Gallos or are you just trying something else for a bit.

They're still hooked up, but are looking for a new home :) Absolutely beautiful looking and sounding speakers, they just aren't the jump I was looking to make. That says a lot about the Canton Vento 830.2 monitors I have - they're THAT good!

I've wanted to try Zu's for awhile now and I can't afford my "dream" Canton Vento 890.2 DC's - so I thought I'd give 'em a whirl.
 
.....There is bass which is the good news for the single driver speakers but they also sound washed out thin and lean compared to the ATC SCM 150 (Albeit this is a $20,000US loudspeaker).....


I don't understand how this comparison is even relevant?? If I had $20k to spend on speakers, I would not have a pair of $1k Zu Omens. Can we keep comparisons to speakers that are at least in the same solar system as the more common Zu Audio speakers?
I'm sorry, but this is like saying that the new Dodge Dart feels rough and cheap compared to a new Maserati Quattroporte. (Which, BTW is only 4x more expensive than the Dart.)
 
They're still hooked up, but are looking for a new home :) Absolutely beautiful looking and sounding speakers, they just aren't the jump I was looking to make. That says a lot about the Canton Vento 830.2 monitors I have - they're THAT good!

I've wanted to try Zu's for awhile now and I can't afford my "dream" Canton Vento 890.2 DC's - so I thought I'd give 'em a whirl.

I'm looking forward to your impressions of the Zu's in comparison to the Gallo's. Both sets of speakers are on my short list to demo. It helps that Zu is right down the street from me.
 
I think we are talking about 3 types of speakers here. I've heard all 3 and the Cantons and Gallos are pretty much in the same ball park as far as what they bring to the table, but the Zu Omen Def's I had the pleasure of checking out for a great amount of time was interesting. I believe the woofers are really eminence woofer woofers used in guitar amps, but Poultry can correct me if I am wrong....they had a supper tweeter that just wore me out after a while and those jokers can play really loud with the high sensitivity....so with the Vincent amp, you may blow out a couple of windows in your home at medium levels of volume....:yes:....and dont know why but the Vincent got the most bass out of them where as a Coanrad Johnson amp couldn't.
 
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slips, the Zu super tweeters come in so high there's not so much to hear. They're more 1 1/2 way than 2 ways. Wish you could have heard the Omens with a SET amp.

A back tilt is needed for those low mounted tweets if you want them aimed at your ears rather than your belt buckle.

Zu's use tricked out wide band Eminence Legend drivers. The Lores use a more standard version without the machined aluminum phase plugs.

Eminence is the world's largest speaker company and although these drivers were designed for guitars that's no knock on them. I never met an Eminence I didn't like and use their pro woofers with my Lowthers.
 
Poultry - what do you think about the Zu Audio Soul Superfly's? I will for sure be messing with how they're setup, but what do you think about putting them on top of the 4" Mapleshade platforms that I have? I wish they were 15" x 15" but they're more like 15" x 12" which I think will still work OK. Time will tell.

For me, worst case scenario I don't like the Zu's for some reason and it buys me some more time to wait for a pair of gently used Canton Vento 890.2 DC's to become available. Best case scenario I love them and I can stop "the search" for a long, long time :)
 
The Soul Superfly's are much loved and a cut above the Omens.

I know you'd like to use those really nice Mapleshade platforms but you need to try lag bolt feet of different heights from Home Depot. Take the stock feet with you and get the same size thread. Experiment with raising the front slightly higher than the back and placing a hard surface underneath ( Mapleshade platform without their feet? ). I never had mine on carpet so I have no experience there. The trick is not to muffle those bottom ports which need room to breathe.

They'll sound best pulled out into the room.
 
livestrong,

Your Gallos look much better than these. :D



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livestrong,

Your Gallos look much better than these. :D



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I'm just guessing here, but I'm willing to say that those probably don't rate too high on the wife approval score card. :D

I didn't realize the Dirty Weekends used modded EMI Legends. For some reason I was under the impression that their gear was done in house. I bet they do take a while to break in. I have some Weber Californais and Weber Michigans and after a couple of years they still aren't broken in.
 
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Thanks - I'm getting pretty excited to hear them and see what the walnut finish looks like in person. I do plan to pull them out into the room similar to how I have the Gallo's currently placed...

I don't think you are going to have much trouble getting the Zu's set up properly in that beautiful listening room. Having them out in the room like that and installing the carpet spikes that come with them should be your first starting point.
 
Omen DEF(s)

Sorry Art, I have my head buried in the music forum and didn't see this thread until now. One of the best sounding systems I have heard contained Zu Omen DEF(s). Admittedly, this was the only time I spent listening to any Zu speaker, so overall my experience is low.

That said, I was truly enamoured with how these speakers conveyed the music. I think what grabbed me and held my interest the most, was the overall presence and staging/imaging. It absolutely demanded that you stop and listen. Of course tonally they were wonderful but we weren't listening to anything that challenged the low end. I would need to hear more if I was going to consider buying them, but Zu Audio definitely get a big thumbs up.

The back end was all Ocellia Quaero - 300B SET monoblocks and their stereo phono pre. Source was a Rossner & Sohn KLM-15 with a modded Denon 103. Let me tell you that this system was the sound of heaven. I think for many people, to have heard it blind they would be shocked to learn that the cart was "only" a modded Denon, and the speakers "only" $3000 Zu.

I may not have walked away fully convinced about the Zu, but the modded DL103 has to be one of the best giant killers in analog right now.
 
To the OP - waiting on your review.

+1

Congrats on your new speakers. I also just recently purchased a pair of Zu Omens. Very much looking forward to hearing your thoughts on them, and especially any set up tips you can offer as you get to know them.

It's going to be a couple months before I can set mine up (waiting for renovations at our new place to get finished), so please post some pics so I can live vicariously through you and your speakers!
 
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