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Those are Altec Santiagos, 411-8A or 413-8A woofer, in a sealed enclosure, 806 h.f. driver, very nice speakers. They don't pop up very often, and if you are really lucky they will be the (b) versions, with their own Altec built in amps. And if you're really a bassnut you will love these, tuned to 19hz. with the 411s or 25 hz. with the 413s. Run man run!!
 
They don't look like 848A or B (EDIT: 878, oops!) Santiagos to me.
I have a pair of 848As in the living room now (thanks to Botrytis' CL find); nice speakers. I really don'k know why the 413 woofers have such a bad rap.

N.B. If those are Bose 901s, they're very early ones and wouldn't be a bad catch (as long as the EQ is also available).

http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/altec/specs/home-systems/878a-santiago/page1.jpg
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My 878As have grilles just like the 878B shown in the brochure above. The "B" has the 411 woofer (which is held in somewhat higher regard than the 413).
 
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hmm, you dont think they look like these? I think they are too big to be santanas. I'M bettin they are santiagos. I can see part of the sculpted grill, in the upper left hand pic.
 
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Mine were $200. I would say for 200 they are a very good acquisition.

theebadone said:
hmm, you dont think they look like these? I think they are too big to be santanas. I'M bettin they are santiagos. I can see part of the sculpted grill, in the upper left hand pic.
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Am I looking at a different photo than you are in the CL ad? The Altec (?) I thought I saw is attached below.
 

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mhardy6647 said:
Mine were $200. I would say for 200 they are a very good acquisition.

Am I looking at a different photo than you are in the CL ad? The Altec (?) I thought I saw is attached below.
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$200 for Santana's or Santiago's? The Santiagos are just a 411 woofer away from a Valencia.
Does this hurt the value that much? I have seen them advertised for a lot more.

The picture looks like a Santiago to me.
 
Bottleflow said:
$200 for Santana's or Santiago's? The Santiagos are just a 411 woofer away from a Valencia.
Does this hurt the value that much? I have seen them advertised for a lot more.

The picture looks like a Santiago to me.
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A pair of 848A (EIDT: oops, 878A) Santiagos for 200 smackers from CL in MA (thanks to Botrytis, who espied them). The 848A has 413 woofers. In fairness, this particular pair has one replacement woofer (Speakerlab) and one original 413. I cannot hear the difference so I haven't bothered to replace the woofers (thanks to a local vacuum tube audio guru whom I won't identify at this time, I have a pair of NIB 411 woofers if and when I get the gumption to make the 848As into 848Bs...).

I paid considerably more than that for my 16-ohm 846As :-) Not complaining at all; but the Santiagos sound great to me (they definitely go deeper than the Valencias), they're efficient enough for a PP EL84 amp, and they are cosmetically better (the Valencias need refinishing and one is grille-less). The faux slate top on the Santiagos is a better kitteh-landing-pad than the walnut tops of the Valencias (speaking of cosmetics).

Here's one of 'em.

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The CL photo looks too small to me to be a Santiago, and I cannot reconcile the grille at all. Note that the cabinet of the Altec speaker is slightly narrower than the 901 in the first photo. I think the CL speakers are Santanas.
 
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Bottleflow said:
$200 for Santana's or Santiago's? The Santiagos are just a 411 woofer away from a Valencia.
Does this hurt the value that much? I have seen them advertised for a lot more.

The picture looks like a Santiago to me.
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The Santiagos, and valencias are very different, that 411 is only used in a sealed enclosure, and uses the 30904 attenuator/eq. to bring forth the highs from the 806 driver, and compensate for the 411s slight inefficiency. the 411 is a very nice driver that's tuned lowwww like 19 hz. in that cabinet. The valencias used a 416 ported cabinet and an 806 h.f. driver and don't go near as low as the 411.
 
theebadone said:
The Santiagos, and valencias are very different, that 411 is only used in a sealed enclosure, and uses the 30904 attenuator/eq. to bring forth the highs from the 806 driver, and compensate for the 411s slight inefficiency. the 411 is a very nice driver that's tuned lowwww like 19 hz. in that cabinet. The valencias used a 416 ported cabinet and an 806 h.f. driver and don't go near as low as the 411.
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And the 848A (EDIT: oops, 878A, "Santiago") used the 413 "Dynamic Force" driver in a sealed box.

According to Bose's site, the current 901 is 21.13" wide
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/speakers/stereo_speakers/901_speakers/index.jsp

An eBAY auction I found on Google places the 901 Series II width at 20.56 inches.

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If that is a Bose 901 Series I (which I suspect it is) the speaker beneath it would be a bit less than 20" wide. The brochure scan from www.lansingheritage.org states that the 878B was 25-5/8"; the 879A Santana, 20".

Just sayin'...
 
Altec only used the 413 driver in the very first run of santiagos, the 411 replaced the 413 in the same year they were introduced
 
As I am at work, c-list is blocked so I could not see the ad, only the image posted.
Yes I would go by the 901 dimensions and dub it a Santana.
Maybe $150 would be ok for it.

Thanks for the rough idea on the Santiago's!
 
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