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2 Ch amp question

Ken Boyd said:
Interesting claim, from the many post from some very knowledgeable tube techs, amazing isn't quite the word they would use for that amp. Glad your having better luck than they have with them. I have never owned on so I can't really claim to have person experience with them. But it makes it difficult for people to make informed purchases when many people on one hand claim nothing but problems with a product, while a few others claim it as "amazing".
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I hear you - I understand- but it may be in fact truly amazing to him, as have many of my purchases until the next best thing came along. Remember it is a journey for us all.
 
justjed2 said:
That's one reason, I'm sure. That's also the kind of thing that can happen when you move from the vintage game into the high end. At least he can talk directly with the builder.
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Always a lot of fun to talk to the EE, whether it be amps or speakers etc.
 
If that Pioneer amplifier is still in good condition or can be serviced back to original spec by good tech for a reasonable price I'd say it's probably best to keep it. Throw money at the source before throwing money at extra watts you don't need. They simply don't make stuff like this anymore and I'm not sure you can improve on late 70s early 80s watts. If you like 2 channel stereo...try using a single pair of decent quality speakers from the mid 80s onwards. Speakers from that era are still relatively cheap compared to vintage electronics from the late 70s early 80s..and around the mid 80s is the sweet spot as speaker manufacturers began to experiment with more efficient materials and better management of cabinet properties and driver integration. It helps to decide what you are actually trying to improve first. If it's clarity ,detail,realism, fidelity..then start at the source ( garbage in = garbage out ) . If its presentation, tonal balance, imagery, depth...look at the speakers and experiment with their placement and interaction with your room's acoustics, furnishings and surfaces. With speakers above 89db/watt/metre for a nominal 8 ohm load..you seldom need more than a decent 40 watt amp to provide decent volume and control...80 watts is almost overkill unless you like to play loud.
 
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melofelo said:
If that Pioneer amplifier is still in good condition or can be serviced back to original spec by good tech for a reasonable price. Throw money at the source before throwing money at extra watts you don't need. They simply don't make stuff like this anymore and I'm not sure you can improve on late 70s early 80s watts.
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See... that's the trick, getting a good tech that will do you right.
Many times, they do a basic recap and that just doesn't cut it.
 
Morgan D said:
See... that's the trick, getting a good tech that will do you right.
Many times, they do a basic recap and that just doesn't cut it.
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It’s actually top notch. And I do love the sound and also will never sell it. It will get used as a 2nd system once I get my dream system (to me and my budget) together.
I am somewhat a gear fan as well. It’s a journey as well as a hobby. I think most hobbyists strive for the best they can afford sometimes for no real reason other than than they can. My all in said and done would be about 4k using the turntable and speakers and DAC/streamer I already have
 
To the OP, There are some very in-depth professional reviews on the Odyssey amps, have you read any of them? They seem to be very informative about the strengths and weaknesses.
 
If I lived close to Klaus, it would be very hard to resist looking at all the amps, preamps,speakers etc he has to offer.
I would discuss with him all his used and b stock gear.
Maybe demo before you buy since you live so close.
 
Morgan D said:
If I lived close to Klaus, it would be very hard to resist looking at all the amps, preamps,speakers etc he has to offer.
I would discuss with him all his used and b stock gear.
Maybe demo before you buy since you live so close.
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That pretty much what sealed the deal. No shipping and the possibility of a long term relationship with a local company of hi quality
Wher it’s a short drive away
 
If I lived in Indy, I'd be a regular at the shop. But, probably lucky for Klaus, I don't. So, I have the Candela, the hot-rodded Khartago, and a decent pair of speakers.

I also have 400+ LPs, and about as many CDs. I'll live.......
 
justjed2 said:
If I lived in Indy, I'd be a regular at the shop. But, probably lucky for Klaus, I don't. So, I have the Candela, the hot-rodded Khartago, and a decent pair of speakers.

I also have 400+ LPs, and about as many CDs. I'll live.......
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I tried to call Klaus again tonight and got the dreaded VM full message. I will try email. I imagine he is a busy man
 
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