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2017 Sansui Serial Number Database

My understanding is that the four digits following the date indicates the nth item off the assembly line & in the month in question. Our highest number is 236080294. And then nothing has been reported to the insertion point of 236080965. This suggests an outlier not only in terms of a calendar date, but that there is no evidence that the actual product count on line 23 in August 1976 is much higher than 300 or maybe 400. Statistically it is so improbable there would be such a huge gap between 294 and 965 if those nearly 700 units were ever produced yet none have been reported to our database. So we have an outlier in two respects: temporal and production line quantities if we go with 236080965.
Good point, that is a big gap and a true statistical abnormally.

I know this is detective work, and I am not trying to be argumentative. I have no personal stake in the data base. I wish I could find the AU-11000 with the same 236080065. I suspect that the AU-11000 is more likely correct but a single digit could have been misread. I have seen a number of AU-11000s listed on CAM going back several years, but not the one in question.
Confirming that serial number would solve this issue. These conflicts are as old as the database itself. Almost every month when I process serial numbers I run into conflicts and have to make a judgement call. The fact that we are debating this single serial number is an example of what makes the database strong by actively weeding out erroneous numbers.

The last 4 digits of the serial number are less important than the first 5 but always cause these conflicts. So the judgement call is to either kick it out completely or to guess. In this case, since we can't confirm the AU-11000 but we do have a reasonably good image of the QRX-7001, I'm inclined to guess. I often guess at numbers and listed some examples in the early production outliers. This particular serial number is important because it expands the known production range, there is no question about the first 5 digits so it needs to be in the database.

Thinking outside the box, if fake ID serial number tags were created to hide stolen equipment, then an extensive database effort like this would eventually reveal evidence of this even if we didn't know what we were looking at.
The likelihood of "counterfeit" serial number tags is pretty low. This is well before computer printers so they would need to be done in a print shop. It's unlikely individual thieves would have the resources to create credible tags. I'm confident that tag is genuine and unmodified.

BTW You have another outlier QRX-7001 236020076. This would be two months after the last of the December 1975s were produced. This anomaly is a little more credible if it is correct. Okay. You referred to this one above, you just typod it as a February '75.
You caught me. See how easy it is to make a mistake. So this new serial number is the second example of 1976 production.

Anyway. I am done flogging this horse.
Don't stop. I need eyes looking over my work.

That said, there is another interesting fact about this particular QRX-7001. The photo you posted clearly shows it's an incredibly rare single voltage North American model. The only others I've seen are 9090DBs towards the end of their production roughly two years after this one was made.

- Pete
 
Here is something of interest.

Posted about a week before Peter Lye's (Iye's) extensive report of Sansuis from Canuck Audio Mart on January 15, 2021 (our page 73 of this thread) was this AU-11000 which was not part of Peter's report.

AU-11000,236080195,canuckaudiomart.com

New to us as well BTW.

236080195.jpg

I cannot find AU-11000, 236080065. Not that it wasn't there, but this ad was entered January 9th 2021 from St Jerome Quebec to CAM and it was not in the January 15th 2021 listing to here. Considering how exhaustive PL's list is, I find it very strange.

The serial numbers are very close. The dates coincide. And PL is very current.

???

My assertion at this point is:
Serial Number 236080065 IS a QRX-7001 and the AU-11000 in question has serial number 236080195

[Using the right hand keypad, a 19 could be entered as an 06 on adjacent keys as the 0 is just below the 1 and the 6 is below the 9...] But there is no way that QRX 7001 serial number is 236080965. I just asked my wife and she said no way it's a 9, it's a zero and she really doesn't care!!

Best I can do so far.

Ian
 
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Maybe I caught.....no >> missed the March run??

7000,221071091,Reidy12,FB Vintage Sansui Amplifiers Equipment
8080DB,827030324,Reidy12,Sansui Classics USA
A-505,582071142,Reidy12,ebay.com.au France
AU-217,028092530,Reidy12,tori.fi/uusimaa
AU-217,838090369,Reidy12,catawiki.com AUS
AU-217,847080325,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
AU-217,848090694,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
AU-217ii,839010232,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
AU-317,218120287,Reidy12,FB Sansui Lounge
AU-317ii,229030627,Reidy12,ebay.com.au Italy
AU-327,837121097,Reidy12,ebay.com.au com.au USA
AU-6500,833100067,Reidy12,ebay.com.au AUS 240V see photo
AU-999,220100225,Reidy12,gumtree.com.au
AU-D5,831020447,Reidy12,gumtree.com.au
AU-X317,223698001219,Reidy12,elektro.bazos.cz
AX-7,918072585,Reidy12,ebay-kleinanzeigen.de
AX-7,919100030,Reidy12,gumtree.com.au
AX-7,919100030,Reidy12,gumtree.com.au
B-55,581100969,Reidy12,gumtree.com.au
CLASSIQUE T-550,603022910,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA 120V
CLASSIQUE T-550,632050322,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA 120V
D-370,412031454,Reidy12,gumtree.com.au
DA-P550,314021968,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA DC15V
DA-P550,924085531,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA DC15V
G-2000,038011521,,Reidy12,FB Vintage Hi-Fi Buy Swap & Sell Australia
G-7500,858100422,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
P-1000,527033293,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
P-2000,0809167195,Reidy12,ebay.com.au Italy
P-2000,0904166077,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
P-D10,343063662,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
P-D10,364030904,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
P-D31,514070084,Reidy12,ebay.com.au Italy
P-D31,924063716,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
P-L40,323090385,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
P-L51,334071332,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
P-L51,424012196,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
P-L75,335091120,Reidy12,ebay.com.au Canada
RA-900,730010881,Reidy12,skelbiu.lt
RG-7,432028911,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
RG-710,474041408,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
RG-710,474071857,Reidy12,willhaben.at
RZ-5110AV,60802813,Reidy12,ebay.com.au France
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SE-8,581081152,Reidy12,FB Sansui Lounge,
SR-2050C.321080928,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
SR-222,317021886,Reidy12,ebay.com.au UK
SR-313,324060632,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA 120V
SR-4050,321020001,Reidy12,ebay.com.au JDM Japan
SR-717,324090183,Reidy12,ebay.com.au JDM Japan
T-5,522050180,Reidy12,ebay.com.au Italy
T-5,871051774,Reidy12,ebay.com.au AUS
T-5,871073285,Reidy12,ebay.com.au AUS
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T-505L,862071073,Reidy12,ebay.com.au France
T-60,430113014,Reidy12,ebay.com.au AUS
T-700,634126067,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
TU-217,840090107,Reidy12,ebay.com.au UK
TU-317,849050157,Reidy12,FB Sansui Lounge
TU-3900,836060251,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA
TU-5900,026020783,Reidy12,ebay.com.au JDM Japan
TU-666,210100190,Reidy12,ebay.com.au JDM Japan
TU-7900,025110281,Reidy12,ebay.com.au JDM Japan
TU-7900,816040234,Reidy12,gumtree.com.au
TU-919,210030239,Reidy12,reverb.com USA
TU-9900,835070460,Reidy12,ebay.com.au JDM Japan
TU-9900,835080281,Reidy12,ebay.com.au JDM Japan
TU-999,21110070,Reidy12,gumtree.com.au
TU-S33,871110701,Reidy12,ebay.com.au AUS
TU-S7,431100148,Reidy12,ebay.com.au USA

Note: JDM = 100V only

Another 240V plate but multi-voltage fuse specs!

AU-6500 eb AUS 2 sn.JPG AU-6500 eb AUS 2 bp.JPG
 
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Here is something of interest.

Posted about a week before Peter Lye's (Iye's) extensive report of Sansuis from Canuck Audio Mart on January 15, 2021 (our page 73 of this thread) was this AU-11000 which was not part of Peter's report.

AU-11000,236080195,canuckaudiomart.com

New to us as well BTW.

View attachment 2847777

I cannot find AU-11000, 236080065. Not that it wasn't there, but this ad was entered January 9th 2021 from St Jerome Quebec to CAM and it was not in the January 15th 2021 listing to here. Considering how exhaustive PL's list is, I find it very strange.

The serial numbers are very close. The dates coincide. And PL is very current.

???

My assertion at this point is:
Serial Number 236080065 IS a QRX-7001 and the AU-11000 in question has serial number 236080195

[Using the right hand keypad, a 19 could be entered as an 06 on adjacent keys as the 0 is just below the 1 and the 6 is below the 9...] But there is no way that QRX 7001 serial number is 236080965. I just asked my wife and she said no way it's a 9, it's a zero and she really doesn't care!!

Best I can do so far.

Ian

I've gone back and looked at my upload file from January '21. I see AU-11000, 236080065 posted in this thread and on my upload files all with the same serial number. Where did AU-11000,236080195 come from? It's not in the database on on my upload list. This is the first time I've seen it. These are two separate and distinct serial numbers referencing two different units. @Peter lye is extraordinarily accurate in his serial number posts. He's posted over 10,000 serial numbers, I don't see any way he would have confused those two serial numbers.

- Pete
 
Hi Pete

236080195 is the serial number of an AU-11000 which was posted for sale in Canuckaudiomart on January 9th 2021 from St Jerome Quebec. I just found it yesterday. It has never been reported to you and has never appeared in the database. This is the address:

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649694055-sansui-au-11000/

It was for sale on CAM for 16 days.

Peter Lye gave you an extensive list of Sansuis on Canuckaudiomart on January 15th 2021, six days after this ad appeared. Included in his list was a AU-11000, 236080065 which I have never found in Canuckaudiomart. I cannot prove that an AU-11000 with serial number 236080065 does not exist just because I cannot find it. There is no such thing as a negative proof. But I can prove that another piece of equipment with serial number 236080065 does exist and that is a QRX-7001 which I gave you last month.

But if PL's exhaustive Sansui list of January 15th 2021 does not contain AU11000, 236080195, why is it absent? I am suggesting that this is one occasion that PL gave you a wrong serial number. I am of the opinion that his AU-11000 236080065 was in fact 236080195 unless someone can show me an AU-11000 with the 0065 serial number. I would have suggested you might ask him, but then I got caught up to date with this thread and learned how many thousands of serial numbers he has given to you, so my suggestion would be futile.

Ian
 
236080195 is the serial number of an AU-11000 which was posted for sale in Canuckaudiomart on January 9th 2021 from St Jerome Quebec. I just found it yesterday. It has never been reported to you and has never appeared in the database. This is the address:

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649694055-sansui-au-11000/

It was for sale on CAM for 16 days.

Peter Lye gave you an extensive list of Sansuis on Canuckaudiomart on January 15th 2021, six days after this ad appeared. Included in his list was a AU-11000, 236080065 which I have never found in Canuckaudiomart. I cannot prove that an AU-11000 with serial number 236080065 does not exist just because I cannot find it. There is no such thing as a negative proof. But I can prove that another piece of equipment with serial number 236080065 does exist and that is a QRX-7001 which I gave you last month.

But if PL's exhaustive Sansui list of January 15th 2021 does not contain AU11000, 236080195, why is it absent? I am suggesting that this is one occasion that PL gave you a wrong serial number. I am of the opinion that his AU-11000 236080065 was in fact 236080195 unless someone can show me an AU-11000 with the 0065 serial number. I would have suggested you might ask him, but then I got caught up to date with this thread and learned how many thousands of serial numbers he has given to you, so my suggestion would be futile.

Ian

I don't search that way. I use google to search keyword!

AU-11000,236080065,canuckaudiomart
AU-11000,215070041,canuckaudiomart+
AU-11000,215070035,canuckaudiomart+

PETER


AU-11000,215070041,canuckaudiomart+ <<<<< "4 Feb 2020" — Sansui AU-11000 Integrated Amp for sale
https://www.ukaudiomart.com/details/649590226-sansui-au-11000-integrated-amp/
I can't repeat the same search , cause it already 2 year old , forget what perimeter i key in for the search.
 
I've gone back and looked at my upload file from January '21. I see AU-11000, 236080065 posted in this thread and on my upload files all with the same serial number. Where did AU-11000,236080195 come from? It's not in the database on on my upload list. This is the first time I've seen it. These are two separate and distinct serial numbers referencing two different units. @Peter lye is extraordinarily accurate in his serial number posts. He's posted over 10,000 serial numbers, I don't see any way he would have confused those two serial numbers.

- Pete
I offer you a suggestion Pete, edit AU-11000,236080065,canuckaudiomart SN to 236090065 , A speck of dirt can change A "9" to an ''8''.
 
QRX-7500A,235090259,youtube,,T-tag

QRX-7500,244091145,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7500,244090072,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7500,235040178,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7500,234100181,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7500,234050980,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7500,234050145,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7500,234050027,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7500,234030277,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7500,234020824,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7500,234020579,youtube,,T-tag

QRX-7001,244120780,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7001,235080352,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7001,235060822,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7001,235060728,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7001,235050847,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-7001,236040025,youtube
QRX-7001,234081452,youtube,,T-tag

QRX-6001,244100605,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-6001,235070171,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-6001,235070078,youtube,,T-tag
QRX-6001,235010095,youtube,,T-tag
 
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I offer you a suggestion Pete, edit AU-11000,236080065,canuckaudiomart SN to 236090065 , A speck of dirt can change A "9" to an ''8''.
That is a beautiful solution. Line 23 was building AU-11000s in September '76 and it fits in the serial number range.

I like that we have so many serial numbers now that more of these (albeit inadvertent) mistakes are being found.:thumbsup:

Well Done to the S/No collectors (you know who you are ;) ). :thumbsup:
It also is turning up and increasing number of "Decade Duplicates" when serial numbers are recycled every 10 years. There are now 9 on file.

Overall, considering the large numbers of serial numbers that are "harvested" off the internet, the error rate is extraordinarily low and noticeably better than serial numbers added in the early days of the database.

- Pete
 
Hi Pete

236080195 is the serial number of an AU-11000 which was posted for sale in Canuckaudiomart on January 9th 2021 from St Jerome Quebec. I just found it yesterday. It has never been reported to you and has never appeared in the database. This is the address:

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649694055-sansui-au-11000/

It was for sale on CAM for 16 days.

Peter Lye gave you an extensive list of Sansuis on Canuckaudiomart on January 15th 2021, six days after this ad appeared. Included in his list was a AU-11000, 236080065 which I have never found in Canuckaudiomart. I cannot prove that an AU-11000 with serial number 236080065 does not exist just because I cannot find it. There is no such thing as a negative proof. But I can prove that another piece of equipment with serial number 236080065 does exist and that is a QRX-7001 which I gave you last month.

But if PL's exhaustive Sansui list of January 15th 2021 does not contain AU11000, 236080195, why is it absent? I am suggesting that this is one occasion that PL gave you a wrong serial number. I am of the opinion that his AU-11000 236080065 was in fact 236080195 unless someone can show me an AU-11000 with the 0065 serial number. I would have suggested you might ask him, but then I got caught up to date with this thread and learned how many thousands of serial numbers he has given to you, so my suggestion would be futile.

Ian
I really appreciate your determination to solve this discrepancy. As was mentioned earlier, a conflict like this comes down to a judgement call. As the keeper of the database, it's my job to make that call. @Peter lye made a great suggestion and that's what I'm going to do. It makes a lot more sense to change an 8 to a 9 than completely changing the last three digits without hard evidence. Peter simply missed 236080195. We have it now and it's time to move on.

- Pete
 
Here are a few more...

A-910,624020919,kijiji.ca
T-910,644034181,kijiji.ca
AU-11000,216020171,reverb.com
AU-11000,236080007,canuckaudiomart.com
AU-11000,236100072,canuckaudiomart.com
AU-11000,236100079,canuckaudiomart.com
AU-11000A,217030112,canuckaudiomart.com
AU-11000A,217080121,ukaudiomart.com
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AU-7700,836030286,kijiji.ca-ontario
BA-5000,246060159,canuckaudiomart.com
SE-8,443055390,canuckaudiomart.com

I will wait until near the end of the month before posting anything more.

Ian
 
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