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2017 Sansui Serial Number Database

Reidy12 said:
Point taken and no issue with boundaries, if not known to all contributors before at least now 'Bad Boy Bruce' has laid the facts bare! Maybe I missed a post from earlier times but hopefully the other 800 or so are closer to within spec!

Anyway Pete, just chuck out what you/admin don't want in there. I have 30 Sansui pieces all between 1969 [TU-555] and 1988 [AU-317] so I do agree by example.

Happy New Year to all database supporters seems appropriate at this juncture :biggrin:

Cheers to all, Bruce.
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Bruce, sorry if I came across too harshly. I do appreciate the time and effort you put into this. It's also likely that I haven't said some of this stuff out loud so it's good that you triggered my frustration with some of this junk. By far, the most time consuming part of processing the serial numbers is verifying models that are not in the Master Model List. In every case I search the internet to visually confirm the name of the model and that it actually exists and that it's not just an existing model with an error in the name.

Here's an example of what I call a "5-stack." The Yahoo JP website wouldn't let me copy the photos so here's a link. Each of these components has a separate name and serial number. There are usually model variations, possibly for different markets or just to extend the market life of the unit. This is a 900XV series. There are likely variants of this with different letter or number designations. The 5-stacks often get broken up with just the individual units showing up in separate auctions. I spend a lot of time chasing examples to verify the model exists.

They were cheap to buy originally and even cheaper on the used market. I can't imagine anyone collecting these things so I'd rather not clutter the database with them. The general guidelines for identifying them is they will always have the last Sansui Logo and sell for peanuts if at all.

When you come across these, use your discretion on whether or not to include them. When in doubt put them in and I'll sort it out. Thanks all of you for your dedication to this project!

- Pete
 
Here are some stats from last month's upload.

1,342 serial numbers posted
91 duplicates in the posted serial numbers
183 already in the database
51 non standard serial numbers that had to be manually entered
12 new models added to the Model Master List
1 decade duplicate
1,052 new serial numbers added to the database.

Don't try to reconcile these numbers because they are not likely to add up. It doesn't include SNs that I elected not to include or corrections to SNs or Models. These errors fall out at different points in the process and get put back in at other points. It also doesn't include SNs that fall out that have errors that I couldn't correct, like these below:

AU-40,869063044,kijiji.ca A-40?

B-60,831070356,Reidy12,ebay.com.au Japan JDM BA?

CD-900X,610035342,Reidy12,auc.aleado.com XV? – likely 5-stack

CDD-X500,602015662,Reidy12,auc.aleado.com ???? Couldn’t find an example

SC-2110,698007567,marktplaats.nl,invalid sticker_serial? 5th digit is incorrect

T-60,8500x2060,Reidy12,hifiwigwam.com 5th digit is incorrect

CD-190,41003318,Reidy12,ebay.com.au UK date digits are zero

Please take a look at these and see if they can be corrected and entered.

- Pete
 
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Monicker1 said:
Hi Pete. Just stumbled across a D-100 Sansui Cassette Tape Deck. List has them as a 1970 product. They are almost certainly a 1980 Sansui Product.

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Shown here on top of a contemporary T-80 tuner.
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Thanks for finding this. It's an example of a classic "decade" error. The serial numbers only have one digit to indicate the year of production. Each model has a decade reference and in this case it was set wrong back in 2005 when this model was originally entered and has been wrong ever since. It's fixed now.

- Pete
 
LBPete said:
The Yahoo JP website wouldn't let me copy the photos so here's a link
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I can't even access that page at all ("From Wednesday, April 6, 2022, Yahoo! JAPAN is no longer available in the EEA and the United Kingdom") but TOR browser let me. Just do <Ctrl>+i and select the relevant images in the Media tab. Or do <Ctrl>+s and select webpage, complete and look for the larger images on your PC. Works with Firefox but other browsers prolly as well:
i-img1198x898-1702966289tss7zn123255_002.jpgi-img1200x1200-1702966290fayurb123255.jpg

There are a lot of serialz there...
 
Hi Pete

Sorry I misread what you were saying. Yes it is an A-40 not an AU-40 which probably doesn't exist. Disregard below.
Two more have appeared recently, I don't know if we have them.
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Cheers,
Ian


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LBPete said:
Bruce, sorry if I came across too harshly. I do appreciate the time and effort you put into this. It's also likely that I haven't said some of this stuff out loud so it's good that you triggered my frustration with some of this junk. By far, the most time consuming part of processing the serial numbers is verifying models that are not in the Master Model List. In every case I search the internet to visually confirm the name of the model and that it actually exists and that it's not just an existing model with an error in the name.

Here's an example of what I call a "5-stack." The Yahoo JP website wouldn't let me copy the photos so here's a link. Each of these components has a separate name and serial number. There are usually model variations, possibly for different markets or just to extend the market life of the unit. This is a 900XV series. There are likely variants of this with different letter or number designations. The 5-stacks often get broken up with just the individual units showing up in separate auctions. I spend a lot of time chasing examples to verify the model exists.
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Hi Pete, you were fine mate and my reply whilst intended 'tongue-in-cheek' maybe didn't work! I appreciate the extra work you do to validate the database entries, an important step.....I remember from Uni - Garbage IN Garbage OUT in database usage. The new models would be a prime example of checking required.

My corrections below;

B-60,831070356,Reidy12,ebay.com.au Japan JDM BA? -- Yes BA-60 w photo
CD-190,41003318,Reidy12,ebay.com.au UK date digits are zero -- seems an 8 digit sn with 00 date, over 2 photos but looks correct? Japan built
CD-900X,610035342,Reidy12,auc.aleado.com XV? – likely 5-stack -- delete, no photo saved & forgot to remove from list
CDD-X500,602015662,Reidy12,auc.aleado.com ???? Couldn’t find an example -- It is a stack system, see photos. I'm told the ID plate text is Japanese but T-tag is indeterminate DOM?
T-60,8500x2060,Reidy12,hifiwigwam.com 5th digit is incorrect -- delete I gave up on getting the missing 5th the digit, forgot to remove from list

BA-60 eb Japan JDM bp sn.jpgCD-190 eb UK bp snn.jpgCD-190 eb UK Plate sn.jpgCDD-X500 Aleado bp plate sn.jpgCDD-X500 TA-X500 Aleado bp.jpgCDD-X500 TA-X500 Aleado fp.jpg
 
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Here's last week's harvest:
AU-222,581091447,marktplaats.nl
AU-D22,574060141,marktplaats.nl
AU-D77X,434061740,marktplaats.nl
AU-X701,607050187,marktplaats.nl
R-50,859113575,marktplaats.nl
SE-9,821080416,marktplaats.nl
SR-222,317042244,marktplaats.nl
SR-232,428071016,marktplaats.nl
SR-232,428060828,marktplaats.nl
TU-D33X,635070722,marktplaats.nl
TU-D55X,655062127,marktplaats.nl
TU-D99X,605030692,marktplaats.nl
AU-9500,215050115,catawiki.com
AU-D77X,634049202,catawiki.com
CA-3000,225070277,catawiki.com
RA-500,233080058,catawiki.com
SE-8,443024713,catawiki.com
 
Hi Pete,
Looking at new database pdf I've noticed a typo error I made for the GX-150 entry.
GX-150,7980082,Reidy12,FB Sansui Lounge.......extra digit "9" - should be:
GX-150,780082,Reidy12,FB Sansui Lounge

GX-150 FB 24_12_23.PNG

Can you correct in the January run please?
 
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Monicker1 said:
Hi Pete

Sorry I misread what you were saying. Yes it is an A-40 not an AU-40 which probably doesn't exist. Disregard below.
Two more have appeared recently, I don't know if we have them.
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Cheers,
Ian


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A-40 makes more sense. We have 54 of them in the database and has been in the database since 2004. Thanks for checking. I've put it in the January batch for upload.

Reidy12 said:
Hi Pete, you were fine mate and my reply whilst intended 'tongue-in-cheek' maybe didn't work! I appreciate the extra work you do to validate the database entries, an important step.....I remember from Uni - Garbage IN Garbage OUT in database usage. The new models would be a prime example of checking required.

My corrections below;

B-60,831070356,Reidy12,ebay.com.au Japan JDM BA? -- Yes BA-60 w photo
CD-190,41003318,Reidy12,ebay.com.au UK date digits are zero -- seems an 8 digit sn with 00 date, over 2 photos but looks correct? Japan built
CD-900X,610035342,Reidy12,auc.aleado.com XV? – likely 5-stack -- delete, no photo saved & forgot to remove from list
CDD-X500,602015662,Reidy12,auc.aleado.com ???? Couldn’t find an example -- It is a stack system, see photos. I'm told the ID plate text is Japanese but T-tag is indeterminate DOM?
T-60,8500x2060,Reidy12,hifiwigwam.com 5th digit is incorrect -- delete I gave up on getting the missing 5th the digit, forgot to remove from list

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CD-190 - It must be a non-standard serial number. I'll put it in as-is with a note. The rest we'll just let go. Thanks for checking.

- Pete
 
Reidy12 said:
Hi Pete,
Looking at new database pdf I've noticed a typo error I made for the GX-150 entry.
GX-150,7980082,Reidy12,FB Sansui Lounge.......extra digit "9" - should be:
GX-150,780082,Reidy12,FB Sansui Lounge

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Can you correct in the January run please?
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Please don't mix corrections and new serial numbers. If it's already in the database or in your text file keep it separate from the monthly upload. If it gets mixed with the upload it creates a double entry. Corrections like this are easy and quick to make but cannot be done as part of the upload process. I've updated the entry in the database and it will be correct when I run the January report.

As a side note, the PDF report that gets posted each month, runs with three clicks. Once the report is set up in the database, it takes just a few seconds to create that PDF. The work is updating the table with all the serial number data that the report references.

To make a correction like this I use a simple "query" that pulls up that line of data. Then I can change anything in that line of data. I use this same query to research the database for almost anything. In this case, I asked the query to pull up all the GX-150s on file. There are 5 on file and the one in question clearly had an extra digit in the serial number. Highlight the errant digit, delete, done. From that point on, it's correct in the database.

- Pete
 
LBPete said:
Please don't mix corrections and new serial numbers. If it's already in the database or in your text file keep it separate from the monthly upload. If it gets mixed with the upload it creates a double entry. Corrections like this are easy and quick to make but cannot be done as part of the upload process. I've updated the entry in the database and it will be correct when I run the January report.
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Thanks Pete, and great to know that the 'correction' process is an easy one and outside the monthly run.
 
7000,221050173,Ben Bassett
A555A,8181113590,Ben Bassett
2000X,011091161,Ben Bassett
G6000,818060238,Ben Bassett
7070,216122925,Ben Bassett
 
My harvest for week 2:
A-1000,509030632,marktplaats.nl
A-1000,508122469,marktplaats.nl
A-2000,510060243,marktplaats.nl
AU-217,838010666,marktplaats.nl
AU-222,119100916,marktplaats.nl
AU-317,837100285,marktplaats.nl
AU-5900,247020196,marktplaats.nl
AU-5900,836030315,marktplaats.nl
AU-888,830100170,marktplaats.nl
AU-D101,573081012,marktplaats.nl
TU-S33,871120779,marktplaats.nl
AU-X301i,508041614,marktplaats.nl
CD-X301i,618068065,marktplaats.nl
D-350M,740112068,marktplaats.nl
D-390R,654015255,marktplaats.nl
D-77F,852101390,marktplaats.nl
DA-P550,604101572,marktplaats.nl
D-M500F,655091174,marktplaats.nl
D-M7,432061393,marktplaats.nl
G-3000,"017111398",marktplaats.nl
R-505,872070040,marktplaats.nl
SC-2100,598010067,marktplaats.nl
SE-77,823090128,marktplaats.nl
SR-222,326120759,marktplaats.nl
T-60,840030981,marktplaats.nl
A-M700,655099335,marktplaats.nl
T-M700L,665090738,marktplaats.nl
AU-5900,856120155,catawiki.com
AU-999,210060303,catawiki.com
B-77,830090824,catawiki.com
C-77,860084551,catawiki.com
T-77,860091430,catawiki.com
R-5,851113256,catawiki.com
SE-7,580120677,catawiki.com
SR-222MKiv,333030848,catawiki.com
SR-838,317070611,catawiki.com
S-X900,628033816,catawiki.com

Catawacky seems to have upped their number of auctions per week so more Sansui devices. Yay!
 
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