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A Question Regarding a Strange "Error" Message on my TASCAM CD Recorder...

ClinicaTerra

ClinicaTerra

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Not sure if this was the proper place to post this question, as I don't see a specific area for "CD" or "Digital Sources" discussions...but if it wasn't, my apologies in advance...

I am uncertain if anyone could help me with this rather annoying, random and mysterious issue I have with my TASCAM CD-RW900SL CD recording deck (not sure how many AudioKarma folk actually use CD recorders as opposed to older analog tape decks and the like), but I'd like to take a stab in the dark incase someone could assist...

Making the problem even stranger/worse is that even TASCAM's technical assistance division couldn't duplicate the problem nor could lend any insight or help with it -- they claimed the message I'm seeing on the display screen is something that isn't even "programmed" into the deck...as I said, very weird.

Every so often, after heavy recording, my deck will suddenly display a small "Tr01" message on the screen in the bottom right corner -- when this occurs and I stop recording or press pause after a track is done burning, the deck immediately goes into STOP mode and I have to restart the "RECORD READY" process, which ends up being a mess and a wreck if I'm recording, say, a live "mixed set" from my Numark DJ-style dual CD player/mixer unit.

As I stated, even TASCAM couldn't identify this problem nor could they offer any help on what to do -- is there anyone here with any experience using these products that knows what this message on the screen means and why it makes recording stop once it shows itself?
 
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I can only come up with guesses, but I'll put them on the table anyway and allow myself to quite possibly be wrong.

I know that CDs are read starting at the inside and progress outward. My first question would be: Could "Tr01" stand for "track #1"? If so, could Track #1 be where the disc's Table Of Contents is placed? In other words, is the drive trying to tell you it is having difficulty keeping track of where everything is on the disc it is writing to?

http://www.herongyang.com/CD-DVD/CD-TOC-Where-Is-Located.html

This explains where the Table Of Contents is located.
 
That is odd, exactly where on the display does this appear? Text field or to the lower right of that? I don't see Tr01 on my display unless its under the EOM indicator?

I think ec1st is on the right track (so to speak).

I do know when dubbing direct digital from my Onix CD-3 that if the Onix's 24/96 upsampling in on when I hit REC on the Tascam, it will freeze up. But that imfo is not of concern with your problem I would think.
 
ec1st said:
I can only come up with guesses, but I'll put them on the table anyway and allow myself to quite possibly be wrong.

I know that CDs are read starting at the inside and progress outward. My first question would be: Could "Tr01" stand for "track #1"? If so, could Track #1 be where the disc's Table Of Contents is placed? In other words, is the drive trying to tell you it is having difficulty keeping track of where everything is on the disc it is writing to?

http://www.herongyang.com/CD-DVD/CD-TOC-Where-Is-Located.html

This explains where the Table Of Contents is located.
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Thanks for your input, ec...indeed, my inclination, too, is leaning towards this message standing for "Track01"...but I don't know why it happens and why it sends the deck into complete STOP mode when I attempt to do anything once that message comes on the display...
 
PavioniII said:
That is odd, exactly where on the display does this appear? Text field or to the lower right of that? I don't see Tr01 on my display unless its under the EOM indicator?
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Yes, Pavioni...it pops up on the lower right hand corner of the display and occurs whenever the deck has been recording for some length of time (i.e. remains powered on for awhile), eventually causing it to enter STOP mode if I attempt to pause between tracks or add a track, etc...

It's the weirdest thing and TASCAM themselves couldn't duplicate the problem...

I think ec1st is on the right track (so to speak).

I do know when dubbing direct digital from my Onix CD-3 that if the Onix's 24/96 upsampling in on when I hit REC on the Tascam, it will freeze up. But that imfo is not of concern with your problem I would think.
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I'm guessing this is some kind of rare, random software glitch that is, indeed, as you gentlemen have been saying, tripping up the deck's ability to write a table of contents...it probably needs repair though that's such a pain in the neck...
 
This probably isn't directly related to your issue, but I have a Panasonic DVD recorder/writer that is supposed to get along with DVD+R and DVD-R discs, and yet it chokes on most of the +R discs I have tried to use. I love it for it's editing features and overall dependability, but when it comes to blank discs I swear one of the "D"s in it's DVD stands for "Diva".
 
i would think that you could actually TALK to someone at TEAC (the parent company of TASCAM:

TEAC
www.teac.com/‎
TEAC Corporation
TEAC AMERICA, INC.
7733 Telegraph Rd, Montebello, CA 90640
(323) 726-0303
‎
they are in motebello california, right off the I-5 with a tall sign TEAC. i use a pic of that as my smartphone wallpaper
 
hifitommy said:
i would think that you could actually TALK to someone at TEAC (the parent company of TASCAM:

TEAC
www.teac.com/‎
TEAC Corporation
TEAC AMERICA, INC.
7733 Telegraph Rd, Montebello, CA 90640
(323) 726-0303
‎
they are in motebello california, right off the I-5 with a tall sign TEAC. i use a pic of that as my smartphone wallpaper
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Thanks Tommy; good to see you outside of the likes of Audio Review...

I have conversated with TASCAM's technical engineering division directly and they simply could not assist with this; I will try contacting TEAC though...

Thanks again.
 
Oh by the way, Tommy: Just fired off an email to TEAC and got an automated response that they received it...will keep you updated when they get back to me...:D
 
Clinica, I'm just curious; how much did you pay for your Tascam CD Recorder?

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I own a Yamaha Pro CD Recorder (1000 CD-R/RW) and the laser assembly broke down twice. First time within two weeks, and second time just after twelve months.
To replace the entire transport was more expensive than buying another one. So it's collecting dust in its broken situation (basement).

Anyway, no more machines like that anymore for me; they are not built to last (even @ 15 pounds).
I spoke with audio technicians and I learned a few things.

I don't know about your particular Tascam machine; I'm just relaying my own experience with my own Yamaha machine and my understanding on the delicate lens mechanisms of them CD recorders and the extensive use's effect that it has on its motor and mechanism and lens assembly.

It's too bad because I paid $700 for my machine with only twelve months of use.
But in that period when it was working it was making better sounding copies than the originals. And I'm not 'bullsifting' you.
I was doing real-life speed recording, and using only the best CD-R blanks.

But these days are long gone now, and I learned from them.

I'm glad that you started this thread because I was contemplating a Tascam CD-R/RW recorder myself. With your experience I am double considering (I am not sure @ all, because when I buy something I use it extensively; so I need something lasting and durable).

And it is very strange that Tascam themselves could not help you!
It don't augur well. Sometimes it is only with very strong determination and the right company's technician that you can learn the deeper truth.
I can say that because I've been through it myself with few audio companies in the past.

But the reality is that a warranty is very short live (a year for most audio components).
Unless you have larger funds and buy Bryston amplifiers. :)
 
LordOfTRings said:
Clinica, I'm just curious; how much did you pay for your Tascam CD Recorder?
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Actually received it as a kind of combo present from my wife and mom; but I think it was around $400 or so...

Prior to that, I was using a Marantz DR700, which was one of the very first consumer grade decks on the market, and I owned it since around '98 or so...it finally croaked so I replaced it with this TASCAM. The Marantz was about $800 when I bought it...

___________

I own a Yamaha Pro CD Recorder (1000 CD-R/RW) and the laser assembly broke down twice. First time within two weeks, and second time just after twelve months.
To replace the entire transport was more expensive than buying another one. So it's collecting dust in its broken situation (basement).

Anyway, no more machines like that anymore for me; they are not built to last (even @ 15 pounds).
I spoke with audio technicians and I learned a few things.

I don't know about your particular Tascam machine; I'm just relaying my own experience with my own Yamaha machine and my understanding on the delicate lens mechanisms of them CD recorders and the extensive use's effect that it has on its motor and mechanism and lens assembly.

It's too bad because I paid $700 for my machine with only twelve months of use.
But in that period when it was working it was making better sounding copies than the originals. And I'm not 'bullsifting' you.
I was doing real-life speed recording, and using only the best CD-R blanks.

But these days are long gone now, and I learned from them.
Click to expand...

I, too, use high-quality blanks and record at 1X (real time) speed -- and I'm talking blanks from the likes of HHB and Mitsui...even Maxell PRO.

What exactly did you learn from the manufacturer about your Yamaha and the recorders in general? Just curious...

I'm glad that you started this thread because I was contemplating a Tascam CD-R/RW recorder myself. With your experience I am double considering (I am not sure @ all, because when I buy something I use it extensively; so I need something lasting and durable).

And it is very strange that Tascam themselves could not help you!
It don't augur well. Sometimes it is only with very strong determination and the right company's technician that you can learn the deeper truth.
I can say that because I've been through it myself with few audio companies in the past.

But the reality is that a warranty is very short live (a year for most audio components).
Unless you have larger funds and buy Bryston amplifiers. :)
Click to expand...

Indeed; I too found it strange that TASCAM could not help me -- at all -- with this issue...but I fired off an email to parent division TEAC on advice of Tommy earlier, so I will keep y'all informed...

How's your surround system doin'?
 
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