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A Question Regarding a Strange "Error" Message on my TASCAM CD Recorder...

Maxell Music Pro CD-Rs here as well. Not the Pro red ones, but the Blue ones with 4 protective layers!

- The technician told me that burning CDs is more involving for the lens in accuracy.
And it demands more power and a good motor.
Because of more complexity and accuracy in lens adjustment, the mechanisms aren't infallible and durable; particularly during heavy usage.
The different discs used too; some are more fussy than others.

But what does he know really! :)

Yeah, I know about that older Marantz CD recorder. I've read all them reviews when they started to appear; Marantz, Denon, Pioneer, Yamaha, and even Tascam.

Can you burn quality (bit-for-bit perfect) CDs from a PC or Mac? Do you need a program for that, and which one?

* What about movies; what's a good free program?

I know zip about music and movie downloads. Do you need some' special, do you need a newer computer (mine is 15 years old), do you need an authorization by your government, by the CIA, the FBI and the Tobacco & Firearm's Control Department?
Can you go in jail with the rest of criminals? ...What is the law? ...Do cops patrol the highways of cyber space too?

What do you do for fun and freedom? How do you live without fear? :D
 
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LordOfTRings said:
Maxell Music Pro CD-Rs here as well. Not the Pro red ones, but the Blue ones with 4 protective layers!
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I've used the Maxell Music Pro's until they stopped making them -- it was an AWESOME product for the home recording enthusiast. Now, they only make the Pro CD-R but without the "Music" moniker -- same good product though...

The HHBs from England are a great professional grade blank media, too...

- The technician told me that burning CDs is more involving for the lens in accuracy.
And it demands more power and a good motor.
Because of more complexity and accuracy in lens adjustment, the mechanisms aren't infallible and durable; particularly during heavy usage.
The different discs used too; some are more fussy than others.
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Makes total sense...and the fact that these lasers aren't "infinite" in their structure or longetivity...

Yeah, I know about that older Marantz CD recorder. I've read all them reviews when they started to appear; Marantz, Denon, Pioneer, Yamaha, and even Tascam.
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Yeah, Marantz was on the scene with that first consumer-grade deck in the DR700; served me well for hundreds of hours of use but it didn't accept anything but the "consumer" grade Music CD-Rs and it cost a pretty penny when I got it...

Can you burn quality (bit-for-bit perfect) CDs from a PC or Mac? Do you need a program for that, and which one?

* What about movies; what's a good free program?

I know zip about music and movie downloads. Do you need some' special, do you need a newer computer (mine is 15 years old), do you need an authorization by your government, by the CIA, the FBI and the Tobacco & Firearm's Control Department?
Can you go in jail with the rest of criminals? ...What is the law? ...Do cops patrol the highways of cyber space too?

What do you do for fun and freedom? How do you live without fear? :D
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To be honest with you, I really HATE recording music from my computer's CD drive -- I have toyed with it, and most files sound okay when played back on, say, my car's CD player, but the software is spotty and sometimes really screws track separations up. Some tracks sound HORRIBLY compressed to, depending on the source I download them from -- I stick to strictly CD recording on my standalone TASCAM, buying CDs and CD singles and then burning custom "mixes" from them onto the TASCAM...
 
LordOfTRings said:
Clinica, I'm just curious; how much did you pay for your Tascam CD Recorder?

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I own a Yamaha Pro CD Recorder (1000 CD-R/RW) and the laser assembly broke down twice. First time within two weeks, and second time just after twelve months.
To replace the entire transport was more expensive than buying another one. So it's collecting dust in its broken situation (basement).

Anyway, no more machines like that anymore for me; they are not built to last (even @ 15 pounds).
I spoke with audio technicians and I learned a few things.

I don't know about your particular Tascam machine; I'm just relaying my own experience with my own Yamaha machine and my understanding on the delicate lens mechanisms of them CD recorders and the extensive use's effect that it has on its motor and mechanism and lens assembly.

It's too bad because I paid $700 for my machine with only twelve months of use.
But in that period when it was working it was making better sounding copies than the originals. And I'm not 'bullsifting' you.
I was doing real-life speed recording, and using only the best CD-R blanks.

But these days are long gone now, and I learned from them.

I'm glad that you started this thread because I was contemplating a Tascam CD-R/RW recorder myself. With your experience I am double considering (I am not sure @ all, because when I buy something I use it extensively; so I need something lasting and durable).

And it is very strange that Tascam themselves could not help you!
It don't augur well. Sometimes it is only with very strong determination and the right company's technician that you can learn the deeper truth.
I can say that because I've been through it myself with few audio companies in the past.

But the reality is that a warranty is very short live (a year for most audio components).
Unless you have larger funds and buy Bryston amplifiers. :)
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I bought a Tascam CD-RW900SL about 14 months ago for $299 and free shipping from Amazon. Now you can get them for about $250 if you do your searches. Great machine. One of the things which I considered when buying it was the ablilty to use regular data CDs as well as music CDs. The only issued I've had with it is the freaking slot loader. Once in a while the CD just won't go in when you insert it, about half way in, it is as if something did not retract to where it is supposed to be, out of the way, and the CD just stops against it and won't be "sucked" in. This is addressed in the manual that says when that happens to hit the eject button. It usually fixes the problem but once the "thing" would not get out of the way, no matter how many times I pressed the button and turned the unit off and on. Since it was still under warranty, I forced the CD in, something kind of snapped inside and since then it has been working OK. I e-mailed Tascam customer support about the issue, but I never got an anwser from them.
 
The Yamaha is more consumer than Pro. Tascam is Pro. On occasion, my Tascam CD-RW 750 will spit an Disc Error. Most of the time, I was instructed by the service center to power it down, repower up and record away. Was said to be an odd software issue. Never happened after a recording was began. It has since worked away for 3 years with no issues. I've had this unit for 8 years. It's been reliable.
 
I have had the same model Tascam for two years without any problems. I suppose I have burned about 100 cd's with it, very dependable unit for me.
 
Some Pioneer CDR's and Fostex CDR's the battery backup / supercap leaks and it eats the traces on the board causing all kinds of weird problems. Open it up and see if you have a supercap or lithium battery inside. If so, examine the area under the battery on both sides of the board (sometimes the fluid seeps through the feed thrus. If the traces are discolored you have to remove the battery, clean the traces, repair any traces and feedthrus that are damaged.
 
I can't offer any help on the Tascam, but I will say that I think that recorders are just a picky technology. Stuff happens.

I will also say that I have no experience with Tascam's service, but it doesn't surprise me that they can't help. I went through hell with some Pioneer recorders, and got nowhere with them. I also had a hard drive issue with my Yamaha, and their service department couldn't fix it. They sent it back as working fine. It was only after burning out another hard drive that I diagnosed that the circuit that ran the drive fan was broken. I wired up a wallwart directly to the fan, and it's been running fine for years.
I'm batting zero when it comes to service technicians and the recorders I've owned.

Except for the drive issue, I don't think I've ever had any problems with burning discs on the Yamaha, and I've had it for 11-ish years.
It's a consumer model, but I think of it being between consumer and pro. It's certainly more "pro" than the crummy Pioneers I had.
 
Yamaha has a regular model and a pro model. They are similar in few aspects, but differ in few other things.

It's the 1000 model.

PRO:
cdr1000.JPG


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REGULAR:
yamahanagrywarka.jpg
 
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ClinicaTerra said:
I do not, Mr. Bob.

You still running Onkyo AVRs in your surround system(s)? You were like the king of everything Onkyo in terms of setup advice! :thmbsp:
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Integra DHC-80.3 SSP now, in my main cinema maison rig.

I still help here and there on occasion when I see a worthwhile relevance.
Nowadays Audyssey MultEQ XT32 is no more the expert's favorite; it's Acourate, Dirac Live, Datasat. ...Trinnov too, and ARC. ...And few other PC programs (Room EQ) in conjunction with REW.
...Digital parametric filters, IIR and FIR filters, DSP bass EQ, ... Frequency, Time, Phase, Notch, ...

Audyssey MultEQ XT32 (Audyssey MultEQ XT and MultEQ Pro) is still great, it gives life in your room; without it (in components that use it), the sound is lifeless, boring, painful, unlistenable.

And in any system, proper setup is at least half of the total audio equation.
And room treatments alone cannot do what some room EQ can do better (improve further), on acoustics.
 
odelj48 said:
I e-mailed Tascam customer support about the issue, but I never got an anwser from them.
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Doesn't surprise me; it took me multiple emails to finally get a response from them -- when they did respond, they had NO answers for me.

Interesting that this model is supposed to be a "professional" grade deck, yet you hear all these horror stories about reliability and customer service...:scratch2: :thumbsdn:
 
KentTeffeteller said:
The Yamaha is more consumer than Pro. Tascam is Pro. On occasion, my Tascam CD-RW 750 will spit an Disc Error. Most of the time, I was instructed by the service center to power it down, repower up and record away. Was said to be an odd software issue. Never happened after a recording was began. It has since worked away for 3 years with no issues. I've had this unit for 8 years. It's been reliable.
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Yes, indeed the TASCAM is pro grade.

I am glad you were able to resolve the issue with your 750 -- I wish it was as easy as that with my deck. Is the 750 the "step up" model from the 900SL or was that from a different generation?
 
dr*audio said:
Some Pioneer CDR's and Fostex CDR's the battery backup / supercap leaks and it eats the traces on the board causing all kinds of weird problems. Open it up and see if you have a supercap or lithium battery inside. If so, examine the area under the battery on both sides of the board (sometimes the fluid seeps through the feed thrus. If the traces are discolored you have to remove the battery, clean the traces, repair any traces and feedthrus that are damaged.
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Wow. Never heard of that before...

But can this one mishap really cause this strange message to appear -- when NO other problems are associated with this deck?
 
KrisM said:
I can't offer any help on the Tascam, but I will say that I think that recorders are just a picky technology. Stuff happens.

I will also say that I have no experience with Tascam's service, but it doesn't surprise me that they can't help. I went through hell with some Pioneer recorders, and got nowhere with them. I also had a hard drive issue with my Yamaha, and their service department couldn't fix it. They sent it back as working fine. It was only after burning out another hard drive that I diagnosed that the circuit that ran the drive fan was broken. I wired up a wallwart directly to the fan, and it's been running fine for years.
I'm batting zero when it comes to service technicians and the recorders I've owned.

Except for the drive issue, I don't think I've ever had any problems with burning discs on the Yamaha, and I've had it for 11-ish years.
It's a consumer model, but I think of it being between consumer and pro. It's certainly more "pro" than the crummy Pioneers I had.
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Thanks for the input.
 
LordOfTRings said:
Yamaha has a regular model and a pro model. They are similar in few aspects, but differ in few other things.

It's the 1000 model.

PRO:
cdr1000.JPG


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REGULAR:
yamahanagrywarka.jpg
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Wow, those are pretty nice decks Bob -- the TASCAM I bought had the rack ears, too, but they were removable, so that's what I did...removed 'em.

Funny that Yamaha put "NATURAL SOUND" even on their CD recorders; looks kinda strange IMO...

I wish Onkyo still made a CD burner; I know they came out with one around '98-2000 or so that kind of slipped under the radar at the trade shows and in the consumer market...
 
LordOfTRings said:
Integra DHC-80.3 SSP now, in my main cinema maison rig.
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Well, you're still in the Onkyo Family...:thmbsp:

You actually helped me set up my 605 some years back in terms of confirming if all my connections and settings were right -- and I appreciated it.

I still help here and there on occasion when I see a worthwhile relevance.
Nowadays Audyssey MultEQ XT32 is no more the expert's favorite; it's Acourate, Dirac Live, Datasat. ...Trinnov too, and ARC. ...And few other PC programs (Room EQ) in conjunction with REW.
...Digital parametric filters, IIR and FIR filters, DSP bass EQ, ... Frequency, Time, Phase, Notch, ...
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Yeah, I've been hearing good things about Sherwood Newcastle's Trinnov and such; I personally don't run Audyssey on my 605 (the 2EQ program) because I prefer the sound of the system with EQ turned OFF, which brings me to this:

Audyssey MultEQ XT32 (Audyssey MultEQ XT and MultEQ Pro) is still great, it gives life in your room; without it (in components that use it), the sound is lifeless, boring, painful, unlistenable.

And in any system, proper setup is at least half of the total audio equation.
And room treatments alone cannot do what some room EQ can do better (improve further), on acoustics.
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I agree that you have to get the room and speakers right first before tinkering with surround EQ -- I just prefer to HEAR the sound of my electronics and speakers before a system tweaks them to death...
 
hifitommy said:
as far as dealing with TEAC for TASCAM, i bet a phone call would be WAY more effective than emails
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Perhaps...

But TASCAM still told me that they have "no idea" what the "Tr01" message means, nor do they know of ANY engineering algorithm for this recorder that is supposed to even display this message...they were at a TOTAL loss, which really confused me even more...

To never even have HEARD of this "error" message?
 
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