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A review of the Audio Technica AT95E cartridge (longish).

I can't disagree more. The 120 is the least favorite of the pile o AT's at my house. With stock e stylus or MLa stylus, it's muddy compared to the 440/MLa or the 150MLX. The 95e actually holds it's own pretty well. No, it's not in the same league, but it ain't anywhere near the cost. It's a good utility cartridge and that's the discussion here. No one is saying it's a Clear Audio. But it is a good bargain. Mine tracks almost anything I throw at it. And, on some LPs that don't do well with a line contact, it's a go-to cartridge to see if you can get around wear pattern issues. It gets plenty of arm time on my TTs for thrift store preview and casual listening :)
 
G'day all, Avole your comments are very interesting as they closely mirror my own experiences with the AT95E when tested on another turntable and I wasn't impressed with the tracking either!

Yet on my Kenwood KD-1500 (which it originally came with) the general tracking, including badly warped discs is excellent. That's a bit of a mystery that requires more investigation.

I suspect that Brocluno is correct in suggesting that overall headshell mass is an issue here as the Kenwood's headshell is rather lighter than the headshell I had previously used which didn't show off the AT95E so well.

'It's All Too Much', as The Beatles might sing! Well sometimes, anyway! But it's all fun! Regards, Felix aka catman.
 
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The recent acquisition of my Kenwood turntable which came with this cartridge has forced me to re-evaluate the AT95E over an earlier evaluation that probably wasn't long enough in retrospect! After acquiring a new elliptical stylus for the AT95E I decided to conduct a more extensive technical and listening evaluation. I've learned a few new interesting things as well that confirm that every turntable/ tonearm/ cartridge combination is 'unique' in various ways. In my earlier evaluation of the AT95E it was tested on my the tonearm of my old PYE Diotran TA5A turntable, a turntable with no pretensions to 'high end', but a basically good quality turntable, and in fact my Ortofon Super OM's, 2M Red and even my Shure M97xE's have been used on that tonearm with very good results, yet the AT95E was only 'so so' especially in terms of tracking of warps even at the recommended tracking weight of 2 grams.

Yet when tested on the Kenwood unit that it was originally mated with, the tracking ability with warped records was excellent at the recommended tracking weight and even at reduced tracking weight down to 1 gram! So why was it only mediocre with one turntable/ tonearm combination and beyond reproach on another? Well I'm not really sure to be honest. Perhaps tonearm cartridge resonance issues, precise overhang adjustment and possibly most likely, vertical tracking angle or VTA. None of my turntables have allowed provision for adjustment of VTA except by the addition of shims etc. I'm starting to think that this parameter is much more important than I had previously thought. It has certainly got me thinking!

Sonically the AT95E is actually a pretty good cartridge with an even frequency response with good extension at both ends. This is where my audio spectrum analyser was very useful at confirming what my ears have told me through listening, and one thing is for sure, this cartridge likes the so called 'standard' input impedance of 47 k. Its upper frequency response is actually much better than the Shure M97xE at 47 k in this respect where spectrum analysis definitely shows an upper treble roll off! In the case of the M97xE, this treble roll off is essentially eliminated by increasing the phono preamp input impedance somewhat (I use 62 k). However the AT95E seems very well matched at 47 k and it doesn't seem overly fussy with regard to input shunt capacitance.

The output level is judged to be just noticeably lower than the Shure M97xE, which in itself is slightly low output, but in practical terms this isn't a problem as the simple one opamp test phono preamp used in this evaluation http://www.redcircuits.com/Page10.htm the AT95E was able to easily deliver enough equalised output level to drive a following line preamp and power amp into clipping when the volume was raised up loud! Tested on a wide variety of recorded material produced very satisfying and high quality sound with a surprisingly wide and stable stereo image, and no inner groove distortion issues were noted. Compared to other higher priced cartridges, in absolute terms the AT95E lacks only the last ultimate degree of resolution and detail provided by a more exotic stylus profile which on the majority of even high quality systems is probably unnoticed!.

I don't know how long the AT95E has been manufactured for, but its excellent reputation over many years is very justified and well deserved. It's a top little cartridge. Let's hope it goes on being available for many years to come. I highly recommend it! Regards, Felix aka catman.



great review cat....and i agree on pretty much everything. i have a couple of AT95E cartridges and they are hard to beat for only $50! i have found tracking them a little heavier helps (i track mine at 2.2 grams....still well within the recommended range).
 
Can you post the spectrum response to pink noise played through both carts with the standard 47kohm input? How even is the AT95E? The only mid-inductance MM cart I've seen with extended response at 47kohm is the 500Emk2/700 series Stanton with what's been called a mechanical resonance that allows that, but also causes treble distortion on loud records that cannot be tested for with the Hifi News record. Obviously the 900 series Stantons (long gone now), the Grados, and high output moving coils have this ability, but this would only be the second ordinary MM cart that has much extension that high under common loading. Are there any other carts that can also be proven to have this ability? Do any of these others also share nasty treble resonances to achieve this?
 
G'day Reticuli, I'm sorry but I do not have the ability to do what you ask. I only have a basic 10 octave audio spectrum analyser and my ears to tell me what is going on.

It is apparent that the AT95E sounds excessively bright at 62 k whereas the M97xE sound beatifully airy and extended at 62 k. Yes you are quite correct in that a lot of factors come into play in determining these response characteristics.

Have you read the exellent general discussion thread on moving magnet cartridge loading over at the Vinyl Engine? http://www.vinylengine.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6674&highlight=

Set aside a few hours of reading! Regards, Felix aka catman.
 
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Just to muddy the waters a bit...

Does anyone have any experience of direct comparison of these two, the AT95E and
the AT3400? Given the potential for HE or shibata upgrades, the AT3400 could be yet
another upgradable budget AT cart. Plus, the AT3400 retails at a lower price. :)

The main differences between the two on the surface are the output voltage (AT95E = 3.5mV,
AT3400 = 5mV) and the stylus profile (AT95E = elliptical, AT3400 = conical).

Anyone any further thoughts?






James H
 
According to TurnTableNeedles.com (TTN) the ATN95e stylus (general catalog number 710-DE) will fit the 3400 series bodies, so I don't know why it would not work the other way around? I also think the higher voltage of the 3400 coil windings would be a good deal for some marginal Phono stages built into receivers and what not? the higher voltage would help overcome background signals and bleed, allowing a cleaner sound. So a 3400 body with any 95e or 95Sa stylus might be an interesting experiment?

http://www.turntableneedles.com/ATN95E-Needle-710-DE_p_651.html
 
And this is the reply I just got back from StereoNeedles.com :)

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Dear Broc,

Yes, the series [interchange series O] includes the 3400, 3401 and 3410; you can use any of the three for the AT95E (we do not recommend you use the spherical 3400, for reasons of sound quality).

Best Regards,

Jack Stern | Sales
www.stereoneedles.com
jack@stereoneedles.com
1689 46th Street | Brooklyn, New York 11204 USA
TOLL FREE | 1.866.NEEDLES

LOCAL | 718.972.6599
 
According to TurnTableNeedles.com (TTN) the ATN95e stylus (general catalog number 710-DE) will fit the 3400 series bodies, so I don't know why it would not work the other way around?

It would work, but of course it would be a major step backwards.



James H
 
Big fan of LP Gear's AT95HE here. The hyperelliptical diamond really digs in the grooves - it's my current favorite low budget cartridge.
 
Oh, we are just speculating :) I'm not putting anything less than an ATN95 on that body. I think I have a very good copy. Good enough to warrant an Sa stylus when the "e" wears out.

But the idea of putting an ATN95e into the 3400 body with about 1 mV more output is intriguing :scratch2:
 
Oh, we are just speculating :) I'm not putting anything less than an ATN95 on that body. I think I have a very good copy. Good enough to warrant an Sa stylus when the "e" wears out.

But the idea of putting an ATN95e into the 3400 body with about 1 mV more output is intriguing :scratch2:

Indeed. Although I'm more interested in putting an aftermarket hyperelliptical stylus
into the AT3400 body. :scratch2:

It seems no-one can confirm, output voltage aside, any significant specification difference
between the AT-95E and the AT-3400 bodies...

AT-3400
Stylus: .7mil Conical
Tracking Force: 2.0-4.0 grams
Output Level: 5.0mV
Frequency Range: 20-20,000Hz
Channel Separation: >20 dB
Channel Balance: ?
Load Impedance: 47k ohms
Output Impedance: ?

AT-95E
Stylus: elliptical 0.4 x 0.7mil
Tracking Force: 1.5-2.5g
Output Level: 3.5mV
Frequency Range: 20-20,000Hz
Channel Separation: >20 dB
Channel Balance: >2db
Load Impedance: 47k ohms
Output Impedance: 2800 ohms




James H
 
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I think I may go for a AT-3400 (there's some on sale on Ebay) and upgrade it with a HE stylus.
Perhaps the Shibata tip might be a bit of overkill so that's why I'm thinking the HyperElliptical instead.

There seems to be 2 available. HE - $50 at Turntable Needles and $60 at LPGear.

Anyone have experience of either??


On the other hand there's also a HE and Shibata stylus available for my old AT3601. Decisions decisions... :scratch2:



James H
 
Upon Howard's recommendation, I have been using the AT 95HE with great results.
The one on the left side of the picture (blue).:music:
 

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Upon Howard's recommendation, I have been using the AT 95HE with great results.
The one on the left side of the picture (blue).:music:

That's the LP Gear one isn't it? Did you have the original (green) AT95E stylus and if
so how did/does it compare?

The AT-3400 has a (red) conical tip (with what looks like a ceramic(?) cantilever) so I'd
be intending to replace that from the kick off.



James H
 
It is the LPgear version of the AT 95HE as per Howard's recommendation.
I did not get the elliptical (E) stylus at all.
Most of the new stylus I am using are (HE) hyper elliptical.

The sound quality increase between E and HE are very noticeable.:thmbsp:
There is not a very big difference in price in most cases.
 
That's the LP Gear one isn't it? Did you have the original (green) AT95E stylus and if
so how did/does it compare?

The AT-3400 has a (red) conical tip (with what looks like a ceramic(?) cantilever) so I'd
be intending to replace that from the kick off.



James H
It's a magnetic cartridge, but has a thick cantilever and tracks at 2-4g. But yes, I'd replace that.
 
It's a magnetic cartridge, but has a thick cantilever and tracks at 2-4g. But yes, I'd replace that.
Yes, Howard. I've been asking this question for a wee while now. See post #32.

I've seen the AT-3400 on ebay for £23 and it *appears* to be very similar to the AT-95E
that everyone raves about when, in fact, the only apparant main difference is the output
level of 3.5mV (AT-95E) to 5.0mV (AT-3400) - and the stylus profile.

I've waited on here (and other forums) to be corrected, but no-one has. And given the way
AT build their cartridges, I suspect the AT-3400 cartridge is an overlooked bargain... :scratch2:



James H
 
Hi folks ! Just registered at this forum, seems such a nice / 'sympathic' one :).

I like the AT95E as well, I got two of them, both completely new. One is the AT95SE (finer needle, 0.3x0.7) from LP Gear and the other is the regular AT95E one, which I bought and owned at first.
The disadvantage seem to be, that there can be (if you're unlucky) worse ones between them, because of the lack of enough quality control at such a high produced number: I quickly recognized that the cartridge that came with LP Gear has an quite intolerable channel balance :thumbsdn:, the left channel is much to silent compared to the right channel. My other org. AT95E cartridge has an almost balanced channel volume and also for some reason the output volume level (mV) seem to be quite much higher on that one (my org. AT95e which I bought first and seems to work better). Both generally sound the same, but with those mentioned differences, the lack of an appropriate channel balance on some of them (like the one I got from LP Gear, LP Gear is not guilty of course, it's just bad luck with that cartridge I guess).
So my conclusion was, that I at least put the LP Gear SE needle from that unbalanced AT95 cartridge on my org./first bought AT95 cartridge, to compare the 95SE needle with the original AT95E needle:
And you could say that there is indeed a notable difference. The finer SE needle definately picks up a little bit more details and especially more of the high tones of course.. (but also a bit the common "spoken S-disortion" of the vinyl playback can be heard now here and there -in some rare cases, but that does not disturb me-, here the org. AT95E needle forgives more of course..). But the org. needle that comes with the AT95E is very good either, first I thought, it might even deliver a very little bit more dynamic or sounds more musical than the SE, but now after the SE needle has been played a bit more and got better, I think it is quite equal regarding this points to the org. needle, so because it delivers more frequencies (high tones) and puts out some other finer details, because of its higher sensitivity just here and there compared to the org. needle, I'll leave that SE needle put on my working AT95 cartridge (until I may get a HE -hyper elliptical- to try out one day ;)).

I rather track both of this AT95 needles at a minimum of 2g, up to 2,4g. I found out that 2g and more delivers at least more 'inner' depth/detail than 1,8g in my set, but 2,4g sometimes can be a bit 'too much' in some very few passages as well (it seemed like, when I compared my recordings of 2g and 2,4g playback, but just almost unrecognizeable ;), generally 2,4g was still 'better'). So somewhere between 2g and 2,4g seems to be my preferred tracking force at the moment.


Just some general things about me, wrote it as an addidion:
I'm new on collecting vinyls and new on turntables in general, but you can trust me that I'm a very conscious person (trying to adjust things as perfect as it -under my given/owned equipment- could be..), I recorded / encoded and compared MP3s and stuff all the way through my life, so I'm adopted to hear specific differences quite well. Also I cleaned all my Vinyls with the Knosti, not using the (agressive and so in my eyes useless) alcohol antistat-mixture it comes with, instead I used L' art du Son or just simple detergent by the öko-mark 'frosch' ;), I pre-cleaned every Vinyl in distilled water, to get rid of the lose garbage on the vinlys at a first step -before putting them into the Knosti for the main / the groove cleaning-, I achived good results with this method (no crackles to hear on the vinlys anymore).
My turntable is a Technics SL-D3, which I first cleaned up completely and put some oil on the middle axis stright after I got it and before I used it and it works great.
I also have a Grundig Prisma XL (is the same as Dual 450/455), but that one has no pitch regulator, just the two holes/screws on the bottom of the motor to adjust it to the the right rpm via a strobo.. and belive me it's a pain to do that :thumbsdn: (just because you can't see and feel the screws while turning them, also both potis are connected to one another, so when you got one rpm (33, for e.g.) right you screw it up again by just adjusting the other poti standing for the other rpm (45).
Can't really understand why such quite good turntables as the Dual 455 and all those weren't equipped with a simple pitch regulator :sigh:, now when you use those, the rpm will never be exactly correct. It could also be a good turntable, but with wrong rpm -even if it's just slightly wrong- it is pretty useless.. unfortunately, because you want your LPs played at the 100% correct speed of course. -But that all is of course a whole other story you can 'discuss'.
 
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I just got a great deal on a Grado Prestige Green 1 for $49 shipped. It would be interesting to compare the Grado Green with the AT95e.
 
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