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ADS L810 to ADS L710

Yes, they are on stands, ADS stands as a matter of fact. And I'm not saying that they are unlistenable no matter what I play, I'm saying that *at times* the low is so present that it overwhelms.

The speakers are not normally right next to each other. I put them together for the photo session.
If you get a chance check out some of A/D/S's other offerings, I have L 880's in 12'x 15'x 8' ceiling carpeted room, powered by an Onkyo TX 4500 Mk2....they sound excellent and they rock! I noticed on your profile you maybe a metal guy? These speakers seem to handle metal well....along with everything else. And they are a little "under the radar" for A/D/S speakers.....if there is such a thing.
 
If you get a chance check out some of A/D/S's other offerings, I have L 880's in 12'x 15'x 8' ceiling carpeted room, powered by an Onkyo TX 4500 Mk2....they sound excellent and they rock! I noticed on your profile you maybe a metal guy? These speakers seem to handle metal well....along with everything else. And they are a little "under the radar" for A/D/S speakers.....if there is such a thing. Let me put it this way ...the 880's are upstairs... because they sound better to me at this point...the 810's are in the basement
If you can pick up another set or 2 and have a speaker shoot out....keep the winner...you'll have no problem selling A/D/S speakers.
 
I have had both ADS and Braun L-810's. Awesome speakers that can overwhelm a smaller space in my experience. Can be boomey but tubes helped with that but that's not always an option for everone.

The 710's are better balanced all around and they are still here. Just my observation YMMV.
 
I have a pair of ADS L810 and (1) single L710 (all w/metal grilles). I have compared them with different amps and gear.

My impression is that the L810 is a better speaker than the L710 but the L810 is harder to drive. When an amp struggles to drive a low impedance speaker the lower frequencies are usually the ones that hurt the most, and that is a bad scenario for the L810.
The L710 is a very enjoyable speaker and might be a better fit for most amps and the typical size room. But the L810 are keepers because in my comparisons they have shown that they will take me farther than the L710s as I upgrade amps and other associated gear.
 
I got a new to me Rotel preamp that I connected to the old Soundcraftsmen power amp and the low end has been tamed somewhat, so I can see what you're saying @HowlerMonkey
 
I have a pair of Braun L810s, and while I like them, I don't find them to have all that much deep bass... My KLH Model Fives, AR-91s and Pioneer HPM-100s all have far deeper bass. I've had the thought that the Brauns could use the help of a small subwoofer... Mine are in the middle of the room, about 3 feet off the floor - having them nearer walls/floors might help. They're still pleasant to listen to, non-fatiguing, but the bass just isn't that deep...
 
I have a pair of Braun L810s, and while I like them, I don't find them to have all that much deep bass... My KLH Model Fives, AR-91s and Pioneer HPM-100s all have far deeper bass. I've had the thought that the Brauns could use the help of a small subwoofer... Mine are in the middle of the room, about 3 feet off the floor - having them nearer walls/floors might help. They're still pleasant to listen to, non-fatiguing, but the bass just isn't that deep...
All the speakers you mentioned go deeper because they have larger diameter woofers (~12"). It is hard to compete against that. The ADSL810 8" woofers are very fast to react but don't go as low. Their bass bump is around 80Hz-150Hz which most would associate with mid-bass (good drums kicks!).... The ADSL810 start decaying pretty fast after 70Hz...
That said, 3ft of the ground is very high. The recommended stand height from factory is ~8",...I have mine on top of some short trash cans/milk crates lol. I have some HPM 60s also with 10" woofers that go deeper than the ADSL810 but the HPM bass doesn't attack as fast as the ADS do.
 
I was right - the Braun L810s sound fabulous with an Acoustic Research 10" sub helping out the bottom... Dire Straits really hits the spot, now... ;-)
 
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We're a couple years out on this thread admittedly, but I have some feedback on the boomy bass issue and other thoughts for anyone else (like me) still enjoying these speakers. I have the Braun L-810A. They're a wonderful speaker. We had an incident a couple years ago where some of the paper woofer cones became torn. To match up, all four woofers were sent away to Richard So. He reconed them with a more rigid paper material and installed new surrounds.

The two original 50uF ROE/Elko Platt electrolytics in each crossover were replaced with two 47uF Audyn Q4 MKPs. The inside of the L810 cabinets are completely open and the reverberations from both woofers can make it a little boomy inside. I fixed this by adding some additional insulation behind the upper midrange and tweeter drivers, and around the back of both woofers to create a (relatively) form fitting cradle around them -without actually touching them- which isolated them from each other as well as the upper drivers, to increase the dampening. It took three tries to get the amount of fill right, but in addition to recapping the old electrolytics which made LFs sloppy and loose, this dampening and the more rigid cones also helped tighten the lower end up a bit as well.

Also, the mid and tweeter sticky domes benefit from being re-doped by VintageAR's product on the auction site if they appear dry. Finally, I wanted to mention that if you've recapped them (like me) using two 47uF mkp per crossover because 50uF mkp may be harder to find and that 47uF was "close enough", they do indeed benefit from reaching the original 50uF value. I got a double-dose of added performance enhancement when I paralleled a 3uF cap across each one so it equaled 50uF. Not only that, but I used paper-in-oils, which complimented the polypropylene quite well and filled in any deficits of just using the Audyns.

Last night, I re-recapped just one the two speakers by incorporating the two PIOs, now 50uF x 2. I left the other speaker with just the Audyns 47uF x 2 and reconnected them to my stereo to compare in real-time. The difference is not subtle. The 50uF PIO speaker has more impact to its sound with higher gain. It is better defined with more detail, the soundstage is a little more open, forward and convincing. The bass impact has increased without losing focus. These are highly recommended upgrades for any pair of L810s to help tame and tighten the bass while increasing fidelity and performance over what a simple 47uF x 2 mkp recap (per crossover) had delivered.
 
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Resurrecting(?) an older thread. I've had L810s for a few months now. My first ADS. An instant love affair. Next, I found a pair of nearly pristine L520s...best sounding two-ways MY ears have ever heard within my budget. Scored a pair of L710s most recently and the shootout has begun between those and the L810s. I've read numerous comparisons with the edge usually going to the L710s...more balanced...less boom...the most frequent comments. Placement matters. So far, in my room, the L810s are winning. Louder obviously but more importantly to me--a fuller sound at lower volume. No boominess either way. One pair or the other will go eventually as I don't have room for all three. The L520s are staying.
 
I have a pair of ADS L1230’s as my daily driver driven by a pair of Schiit Aegir monoblocks and a Schiit Freya S pre. It’s close to an end game setup for me. It’s that good. The 1230’s have the exact same driver complement as the series 2 810’s. I haven’t heard 810’s. But I can say that the L1230’s punch deep and fast. And of course the mid and highs are ADS-awesome. I don’t understand some of the comments that the 810 doesn’t punch deep. Perhaps the cabinet is too small. Also the 1230 is voiced different than other ADS speakers. The ADS 1x30 series (1230, 1530 and 2030) were voiced to the ‘tonemeister’ specifications. For comparison I have a pair of JBL L100t’s that sit right next to the L1230’s. I can switch between the two with an Adcom selector. I seldom listen to the JBLs, unless I want to listen VERY loud.
Also have a pair of L520’s in my home office driven by a Realistic SA-1001 integrated amplifier. The L520’s are easily one of the best 8” two ways ever made!
 
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