Affordable high wattage speakers?
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similost
Rockin and Rollin....
I agree, for what you want, look for some 2 way DJ pole speakers..
I've got a pair of Community 2 ways, a little bigger than what you want, maybe just under twice the size.. but they ROCK.. LOUD.. lots of bass... and a clean sound... you can pick up speakers like that for really good prices used..
I use them for kick around party speakers outdoors..
I've got a pair of Community 2 ways, a little bigger than what you want, maybe just under twice the size.. but they ROCK.. LOUD.. lots of bass... and a clean sound... you can pick up speakers like that for really good prices used..
I use them for kick around party speakers outdoors..
flavio81
Turntable technician
lol!! :d
flavio81
Turntable technician
If you want really LOUD (rock concert-levels) sound with good bass extension then you want high efficiency and high power handling, and i'm afraid this is not possible with small boxes. What you want is disco-club-sized PA speakers like the ones made by JBL.
But your ears will be gone in no time.
If you want deep, quality bass at realistic (acoustic-concert) sound pressure levels, then a pair of high quality floorstanding speakers using at least one 12" woofer on each one will be good enough. Don't mind the power of the speakers, what you want is good speaker efficiency (google it.)
similost
Rockin and Rollin....
I worked in nightclubs, I worked concerts, I've done hundreds of concerts.. I do a lot of shooting without ear protection, I ride motorcycles, and I've owned a lot of really large PA speakers.... I can still hear...
bhebbel
Well-Known Member
Time for skool.
http://guitarwtf.com/2012/04/17/wtf-is-the-difference-between-a-50-watt-and-a-100-watt-amp/
http://www.audioholics.com/frequent-questions/relationship-between-watts-and-dbs
http://www.digikey.com/Web Export/S...F/PUI_speaker_power_distance.pdf?redirected=1
And another thing:
Get a decent used subwoofer. By decent I mean Hsu, Outlaw or SVS. There are others as well. Get something relatively big and heavy. You want a good, solid, large cabinet as a starting point. Your Yamaha speakers will sound at least twice as good.
If you want to do this on the cheap find a dead one on ebay (hopefully local to avoid the shipping cost). Buy a BASH amp on ebay. It will take a short cheap trip to Home Depot and two hours of your time to get the sub working again. You could even upgrade the driver with a better one from ebay. If you the driver out of most subs you would be underwhelmed but they sound great.
I don't know why more people don't do this. A good sub is one of the best system enhancements anyone can make if you want to close your eyes and feel like you are at the rock concert. Think about it. Bands use large PA type speakers when they are live. A recording studio is a different environment.
Or try this:
Someone else suggested that you get a decent set of PA speakers from the "Musical Instruments" section of Craigs or ebay. Considering what you are looking for, this would probably satisfy your requirements.
My last last word on this: Louder is not better. This is the oldest trick in the audio business. Humans perceive louder as better sounding. Take a novice into a showroom and play the crappiest speakers in the room 2 or 3 db louder than best/most expensive speakers in the room and the average person will say that the louder speakers sound better. Lots of cheap, high margin speakers were and are sold this way. Lots of cheap speakers either accentuate the bass or the treble to get the perspective buyers attention. They become the become the flashy girl you might date but would never marry. You can't compare speakers fairly unless you or get showroom has a way to insure that the same volume/sound level is established for different speakers being compared.
Don't get suckered on big bass. it's like a girl with really big boobs. It catches your eyes (or ears) but at some point its' just in the way of appreciating everything about the woman (or the speakers). I should know.
http://guitarwtf.com/2012/04/17/wtf-is-the-difference-between-a-50-watt-and-a-100-watt-amp/
http://www.audioholics.com/frequent-questions/relationship-between-watts-and-dbs
http://www.digikey.com/Web Export/S...F/PUI_speaker_power_distance.pdf?redirected=1
And another thing:
Get a decent used subwoofer. By decent I mean Hsu, Outlaw or SVS. There are others as well. Get something relatively big and heavy. You want a good, solid, large cabinet as a starting point. Your Yamaha speakers will sound at least twice as good.
If you want to do this on the cheap find a dead one on ebay (hopefully local to avoid the shipping cost). Buy a BASH amp on ebay. It will take a short cheap trip to Home Depot and two hours of your time to get the sub working again. You could even upgrade the driver with a better one from ebay. If you the driver out of most subs you would be underwhelmed but they sound great.
I don't know why more people don't do this. A good sub is one of the best system enhancements anyone can make if you want to close your eyes and feel like you are at the rock concert. Think about it. Bands use large PA type speakers when they are live. A recording studio is a different environment.
Or try this:
Someone else suggested that you get a decent set of PA speakers from the "Musical Instruments" section of Craigs or ebay. Considering what you are looking for, this would probably satisfy your requirements.
My last last word on this: Louder is not better. This is the oldest trick in the audio business. Humans perceive louder as better sounding. Take a novice into a showroom and play the crappiest speakers in the room 2 or 3 db louder than best/most expensive speakers in the room and the average person will say that the louder speakers sound better. Lots of cheap, high margin speakers were and are sold this way. Lots of cheap speakers either accentuate the bass or the treble to get the perspective buyers attention. They become the become the flashy girl you might date but would never marry. You can't compare speakers fairly unless you or get showroom has a way to insure that the same volume/sound level is established for different speakers being compared.
Don't get suckered on big bass. it's like a girl with really big boobs. It catches your eyes (or ears) but at some point its' just in the way of appreciating everything about the woman (or the speakers). I should know.
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plazmaplanna
Active Member
Space is the main concern here..I have speakers that have good bass (though people don't seem to believe me on them- they're the hitachi uglies in another thread) the realistic optimus 2B's I have get excellent quality bass. I have thought about adding a sub, and am looking....but subs are usually quite large...harder to find good small subwoofers. If I do that though I think I will need to replace the tweeters in my optimus 2b's. I'm not talking ear breaking bass....why have speakers at all then why not only run subs and a couple of opened or sealed small tweeters that can putout decent. (Might not be a bad idea...though those mids do sometimes catch things you wouldn't normally hear without them)
Maybe I'm just a little sad these optimus 2b's can't push too much, they are 75% there at their peak just a little more and they'd be perfect. So if I could find woofers of similar output but slightly louder (forget the wattage formula- I just put that and I know wattage is only part of the whole equation)
How about a passive radiator in the optimus 2b's or another speaker....would that improve the low frequencies? Sorry a bit rambled and off topic...not too good at night with the focus department with my whiskey.
Another thought occurred to me....if I modify the hitachis to basically be a type of sub woofer that could be a real money saver. =) (they're very thin so they save space) solution found maybe....
Only problem to that is what will I do with my work bench/radio desk setup....maybe run some different speakers I guess.
On the bass pursuit...I was once a bass head....but having installed, heard and fiddled with car/truck sub woofers enough I have grow to like smaller more efficient subs that blend well with the rest of the speakers to create synergy. In my truck currently I put everything to zero and just fiddle with the pre-decided options with good result...leaning toward easy listening, jazz, and occasionally rock. Easy listening is good for AM radio which I listen to a lot of in the truck.
Thanks for tidbits everyone...this forum is an audio equipment lovers wet dream...and if you can't get help here..you can't get help period.
Maybe I'm just a little sad these optimus 2b's can't push too much, they are 75% there at their peak just a little more and they'd be perfect. So if I could find woofers of similar output but slightly louder (forget the wattage formula- I just put that and I know wattage is only part of the whole equation)
How about a passive radiator in the optimus 2b's or another speaker....would that improve the low frequencies? Sorry a bit rambled and off topic...not too good at night with the focus department with my whiskey.
Another thought occurred to me....if I modify the hitachis to basically be a type of sub woofer that could be a real money saver. =) (they're very thin so they save space) solution found maybe....
Only problem to that is what will I do with my work bench/radio desk setup....maybe run some different speakers I guess.
On the bass pursuit...I was once a bass head....but having installed, heard and fiddled with car/truck sub woofers enough I have grow to like smaller more efficient subs that blend well with the rest of the speakers to create synergy. In my truck currently I put everything to zero and just fiddle with the pre-decided options with good result...leaning toward easy listening, jazz, and occasionally rock. Easy listening is good for AM radio which I listen to a lot of in the truck.
Thanks for tidbits everyone...this forum is an audio equipment lovers wet dream...and if you can't get help here..you can't get help period.
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Kingshead
Professor
This is incorrect. It takes approximately 10 times the wattage to result in a perceived doubling of the sound pressure level. The wattage must be increased two fold for an increase of 3db sound pressure level, this 3db increase does not translate into double the sound pressure level.
This would be my recommendation, and about the only way to reach your target goal.
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bowtie427ss
Lunatic Member
Ever heard of Legend, Hot Spot, or Bullfrog monitors?