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AK Bracket Game is Back!

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OK, I'll change it again for something more a' propos..

Yeah, that's much better. At least you didn't drag out your Halloween avatard.

Speaking of Big10(14) the Maryland/Valpo game on right now is a good one other than the D team calling the game.
 
Round two is in the books. Here is how the conferences did.

ACC 6-0
PAC 12 4-0
Missouri Valley 2-0
Big Ten 5-2
Big East 4-2
SEC 3-3
Atlantic 10 2-2
America 1-1
West Coast 1-1
Big 12 3-4
Mountain West 1-2
All other conferences had one bid, they went 2-21

The Big 12 is the first round disappointment, the ACC is the bright spot.

After one round of play, I am not as confident in Kentucky as I was. Arkansas finished second in the SEC and barely scraped by Wofford and LSU finished 3 and got dumped by the 7th place finisher in the ACC, NC State.

I bet KY vs the field two days ago, today I take the field.
 
Round two is in the books. Here is how the conferences did.

ACC 6-0
PAC 12 4-0
Missouri Valley 2-0
Big Ten 5-2
Big East 4-2
SEC 3-3
Atlantic 10 2-2
America 1-1
West Coast 1-1
Big 12 3-4
Mountain West 1-2
All other conferences had one bid, they went 2-21

The Big 12 is the first round disappointment, the ACC is the bright spot.

After one round of play, I am not as confident in Kentucky as I was. Arkansas finished second in the SEC and barely scraped by Wofford and LSU finished 3 and got dumped by the 7th place finisher in the ACC, NC State.

I bet KY vs the field two days ago, today I take the field.

I am wishing I had picked another champ. There are just too many others with K-Y ahead of me to catch. Shoulda known better.

For posterity here are the top 10 after the second round.
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Any feedback on the new scoring system?
I was going to post a "What If?" screen shot showing what the scores would be if we had the traditional/default scoring and also the alternative bonus system (multiply instead of add) , but it seems to be locked. I was somewhat disappointed because I wanted to see how multiplying by the seed number was going to impact later rounds.
 

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FWIW, I prefer the traditional scoring because it seems to me that the seeding numbers can make up for a lot of other screw ups. One Cinderella could wreak havoc on well picked bracket. Adding is bad enough, but multiplying could really mess things up.

Is there a scoring breakdown were we could see how it affected our scores? I guess we could just manually rescore and see what the standings look like then.

Who's got a low seed upset out there helping them now???
 
FWIW, I prefer the traditional scoring because it seems to me that the seeding numbers can make up for a lot of other screw ups. One Cinderella could wreak havoc on well picked bracket. Adding is bad enough, but multiplying could really mess things up.

Is there a scoring breakdown were we could see how it affected our scores? I guess we could just manually rescore and see what the standings look like then.

Who's got a low seed upset out there helping them now???

Different scoring system makes it a different game. You have to weigh the benefits of taking chances. I was not gonna do all the math, I just left my bracket as it was rather than get out the slide rule. :smoke:
 
FWIW, I prefer the traditional scoring because it seems to me that the seeding numbers can make up for a lot of other screw ups. One Cinderella could wreak havoc on well picked bracket. Adding is bad enough, but multiplying could really mess things up.

The multiplying thing was a little too scary in the late rounds. Don't forget, even with the old scoring method the rounds are weighted.

Is there a scoring breakdown were we could see how it affected our scores?

I tried to see what the impact was, but:
I was going to post a "What If?" screen shot showing what the scores would be if we had the traditional/default scoring and also the alternative bonus system (multiply instead of add) , but it seems to be locked.


I guess I will just manually rescroe and see what the standings look like then.
Fixed that for ya.:thmbsp:


Who's got a low seed upset out there helping them now???
I didn't see any, but didn't do an exhaustive search. There were plenty of upsets on Thursday, but AFIK nobody exploited them. Let us know if you see one when you recalculate everyone's brackets, will ya?
 
The multiplying thing was a little too scary in the late rounds. Don't forget, even with the old scoring method the rounds are weighted.



I tried to see what the impact was, but:




Fixed that for ya.:thmbsp:



I didn't see any, but didn't do an exhaustive search. There were plenty of upsets on Thursday, but AFIK nobody exploited them. Let us know if you see one when you recalculate everyone's brackets, will ya?

No matter how it's scored it's a game of chance that the winner likes to think shows his intuitiveness. :smoke:

In other words, it's fun, thanks for setting it up!
 
No matter how it's scored it's a game of chance that the winner likes to think shows his intuitiveness. :smoke:

In other words, it's fun, thanks for setting it up!

Here's some more fun while we are waiting for today's games to start! I can't change the format at this point, but I can add players. I took the liberty of adding the four "Experts" whose advise we apparently all ignored.
I used the "autofill" option to populate their brackets with their own picks.

Their positions are tied for 9th, 11th, 13th, and 19th. And these guys do this for a living? Jerry Palm may need to rethink the bracketoligist thing.:scratch2:
 
UAB and Georgia state look like the only Cinderellas left. Let's see how their 14 pt bumps affect the rankings today should they win. Fortunately, with the weighed rounds, the effect is lessened every round. Multiplying would be batshit crazy as a 10 seed would get an extra 40 points for winning a Sweet 16, or 80 for an Elite 8, which could overtake a more "accurate" card w/o the wildcard pick.

Since many of us made similar pics, the effects should be pretty much equal and therefore balance. and the guys who picked a longshot and lost are only minimally disadvantaged as the favored winner was a high seed with a low add on.

Still, I prefer the known method, especially if this were a money game, which it isn't.
 
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I was not gonna do all the math, I just left my bracket as it was rather than get out the slide rule. :smoke:

Well, since the games are all 1 point now, it's just a matter of counting wins. High score would be 26, low 20; just look at the standings. There would be a 6 point spread, not a 46 point one....

Next round is 2 pts, so just copy today's wins as of now, subtract them from Monday's wins and add that difference to the Monday's wins and you'll see the effect after two rounds. Say today's wins are 24 and Monday's is 36. Your score under regular scoring would have been 36+(36-24)=48. you only need to add one since the win total already has one of the two points/win in the total.

It does get messier though every round...
 
Here's some more fun while we are waiting for today's games to start! I can't change the format at this point, but I can add players. I took the liberty of adding the four "Experts" whose advise we apparently all ignored.
I used the "autofill" option to populate their brackets with their own picks.

Their positions are tied for 9th, 11th, 13th, and 19th. And these guys do this for a living? Jerry Palm may need to rethink the bracketoligist thing.:scratch2:

who are these 4 experts????

The "experts" do the seeding. We second guess them as do the sports analisis guys when we make our picks.
 
Well, since the games are all 1 point now, it's just a matter of counting wins. High score would be 26, low 20; just look at the standings. There would be a 6 point spread, not a 46 point one....

Next round is 2 pts, so just copy today's wins as of now, subtract them from Monday's wins and add that difference to the Monday's wins and you'll see the effect after two rounds. Say today's wins are 24 and Monday's is 36. Your score under regular scoring would have been 36+(36-24)=48. you only need to add one since the win total already has one of the two points/win in the total.

It does get messier though every round...

lol, now that's funny :D

Here's what I am gonna do for you. If you final pick is correct and wins the tourney, you win. Does not matter who or how you picked leading up. OK?

Anyone else picked the same team, so what. You still win. :smoke:
 
Since many of us made similar pics, the effects should be pretty much equal and therefore balance. and the guys who picked a longshot and lost are only minimally disadvantaged as the favored winner was a high seed with a low add on.

Still, I prefer the known method, especially if this were a money game, which it isn't.

But if you picked a longshot and lost, you have given up potential wins beyond that point. Say someone picked Stephen Austin to go the Sweet 16. If they make it is yields big bonus. You know, like Steve Austin:
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If they lose, you have darkened that corner of your bracket.
You know, like Steve Austin:
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who are these 4 experts????

The "experts" do the seeding. We second guess them as do the sports analisis guys when we make our picks.

When you filled in your bracket you had the option to autofill using their picks, or go with the most popular picks, or a random pick based on some formula. These guys are real humans, and Hairy Palm is the CBS Sports resident Bracketologist and BCS expert, too.


Oops, that's Jerry Palm


Here's what I am gonna do for you. If you final pick is correct and wins the tourney, you win. Does not matter who or how you picked leading up. OK?

Anyone else picked the same team, so what. You still win. :smoke:

So if K-Y wins, most of us win? Glad you see it that way. Most of us don't.:no:

Andyman, do you have a bracket?????? I don't see you?????

Andy changed to a screen name initially, but it was not his screen name. Now he makes a tribute to Bucky Badger.:yes: Believe me, if the commissioner had power to change player's names, he would be Cheesehead!

btw, a badger is a fierce mammal, but would get its ass kicked by a wolverine. Not that that has anything to do with college hoops.
 
btw, a badger is a fierce mammal, but would get its ass kicked by a wolverine.

I don't think that's been the case for the last few years...

I'm just pulling for the home state. I was enrolled in grad school at UW for 2 weeks in 1982, but wound up transferring to Northwestern.

Actually, I'm a Marquette Warrior, but have disowned them since they caved and dropped the name back in the 1994.

True Warriors would have told the PC crowd to go **** themselves...:yes:

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I was at the airport in 1977 when the Champions arrived home..

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Andyman, do you have a bracket?????? I don't see you?????


Eff 'em, Bucky. I was 313guy :D just to mess with Tom for a while. My avatar is changed to help you guys figure it out. I had one of those T-shirts back in the day.

Actually maybe we should all change our names to 313Guy variants for the weekend...:lmao:

I'm in 5th right behind you. The Wisconsin/North Carolina game, if it comes to pass, will affect that ranking quite a bit though.
 
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