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Alobar's system..

Alobar

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I realized I hadn't done one of these member systems post so this is my attempt. The amplifier and speakers I bought new in the early-mid 70's. I had these in daily use in the 70's up until about 1985 when I went with a smaller setup due to always traveling for work etc. My oldest brother had my big speakers and amp for the next 30 years. One day he was on the phone (he lives 650 miles from me) and asked if I wanted my old gear back. Oh yeah! Getting the amp back was easy, but the speakers simply wouldn't fit into our Jeep Patriot with all the other stuff we take along on these road trips. Anyway I ended up making a special trip to retrieve the L200's by removing the rear seat in my Chevy extended cab truck. It was a very tight fit!

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Modded JBL L-200's



“Frat house speakers!” Yes they have been called that and worse from several of the JBL authorities. Still they have a certain charm. Beautiful to look at and they do have a nice horn mid range (what used to be hi frequency driver before I added the tweeter). The biggest complaint is that they are boomy although there are some things that I have done to help that.I find that they play the music I now like to listen to quite nicely. Jazz, a genre I am new to sounds wonderful on these! Other than low bass these are about 90% there right now. These can be a real project platform if one really wants to go for it and many have been converted into virtual L-300's. I am already part way there with the addition of the 077's.



What I have done thus far that is in the “mod” category: I added an 077 tweeters to them. It is the same one found in the L-300, (as is the stock LE85 compression driver). Then I built new crossovers and added them to the area in the base of the speaker cab, on the outside so I can get to it easily should I want to change anything later. I built the xovers to JBLL200 original specs, and then have simply added the 077 tweets with a separate 1uf cap and 8 ohm Lpad as recommended by a fellow AK'er. As it turns out this is the same arrangement that Nelson Pass used when he recreated the L300 crossover. It works well like this, picking up the highest frequencies as the LE85's are rolling off at their high end. I don't know what a frequency chart would look like but I definitely love the effect that adding these 077's did.
Link to crossover build:
http://audiokarma.org/forums/index....-i-just-got-new-speakers.736903/#post-9985346

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Kenwood 700M and 700C Supreme series.



For those that are not familiar, the Supreme series was meant to be Kenwood's TOTL amplifiers. This amp is in the rare variety and is fairly in demand by collectors. It is the most powerful of the Supreme family of which only around 1000 total were ever made and distributed world wide. That includes the integrated amps which were the 500, 600, 650, and the separates 700M and 700C. Tuners were also available in 500-700 too.
http://www.thevintageknob.org/kenwood-Supreme.html



These amplifiers have received some very good reviews here on AK as well as elsewhere and EchoWars is probably the best source of info there is on these. He has rebuilt many as well as a complete rebuild (shotgunned as he described it due to a stubborn static issue) on my 700C preamp. It is like brand new now!



The 700M we had to take a different approach. While it still worked, it was starting to have high DC offset numbers on one channel (over 40mv). Shipping out to EchoWars was the problem due to where I live. Everything that comes or goes from my tiny Alaskan town has to fit and fly on single engine Cessna's or else float out on a barge. No truck freight, and UPS is very limited (they contract with the air taxi's on some items). The USPS is it, and they have something like a 60lb limit. The 700M weighs over that! Anyway he felt that if I sent him 3 boards to be rebuilt that it would sound like new and probably would be all it will ever need so that is what we did. Relay protection board and the 2 driver boards. I also changed out all the output transistors as well. So now DC offset is under 10mv on one channel and under 1mv for the other.

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Technics turntables and AT440MLb cartridge.

I was given these 2 tables, one from each of my older brothers. One is a SL-1401 and the other is an SL-QL1 linear tracker. The SL-1401 is somewhat of a rare bird as it was only made for 1 year (1978). I have both of these TT's connected to the 2 phono stages on the 700C pre and they both work without any issues. The only thing I had to do with the tables themselves is a few drops of Technics lube oil in the lube points on the direct drive motors.



The SL-1401 also came to me with a bent stylus on its original cart so I ordered a new AT440MLb which sounds very good. This has become my main table now which I am using to go through a large donation of vinyl that was given to me both from my oldest brother and a brother in law. Some of it I am keeping and recording to digital FLAC lossless. I am simply too lazy to play music on a turntable on a daily basis although I do love the sound of vinyl and that 440MLb really is an incredible bargain!



The SL-QL1 plays well, but I suspect it could use a new cartridge too. Just doesn't sound nearly as good as the AT 440MLb. I plan eventually to replace its cart at some point but my options are limited to the various P type cartridges.

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New sources meets old equipment. The digital age.



I play music almost exclusively from lossless and above tracts stored on my Windows PC. I now use JRiver to “stream” files to another small computer called a Raspberry Pi which also has JRiver on it. This was in a successful effort to rid the music from the noisy (RF) USB bus on the PC which caused quite a bit of problems. By sending files to the Raspberry via Ethernet cable now the music gets sent to my DAC from a very quiet, dedicated USB on the RPi. The results were quite good, better than I had hoped! Not only is the background dead quiet, but I believe the SQ is better as well in that possibly some jitter has been removed, and a really annoying issue of on occasion the music cutting out at a very fast continuous rate that would take a few seconds to up to a minute to realize. Either that or the music would play slightly too fast, the biggest clue was the increase in frequency of the vocals in particular. Then always a complete reboot of the Win 10 PC was needed to correct. Then I couldn't have any other programs running. The little Rpi, for under $50 is one of the best audio purchases I have made this year..




Schiit Modi, and Modi Multibit.




These both are great little DAC's that sound from very good (for the original Modi) to fantastic for the Multibit. I have the Multibit DAC exclusively connected to the Raspberry Pi3 and this is where I do all serious listening to music. I keep the original Modi just for direct PC sound now, which includes YouTube video, some movies or DVD concerts etc. It still sounds great for this sort of thing, but the Multibit is in a class removed from the original. It is that good!


Other equipment not in regular use:



A couple other items that don't get a lot of use. I have a Yamaha tuner (CT-610 ll). It needs to be gone through but still plays the radio fine but only mono. We only have one radio station here, an FM public station that does have good music with Jazz and Classical as well as a 3 hour call in rock show that is all live and all from old vinyl! Thing is the music mostly sounds worn out and or the cartridge bad on their TT so I don't tune in to that show very often. I also have a Teac reel to reel model A-3300SX. It works pretty well but the tape I have for it isn't in very good shape. It also needs to be rebuilt or recapped. If and when I ever figure out what I need it for I will get to work on it..
 
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Thanks, as mentioned the amp and speakers has been with me off and on over 40 years and while it is old it still makes me grin and enjoy music. If I lived elsewhere I suppose I may be at least tempted to upgrade the speakers with something a little more modern (actually I would love the L 300's) but I live completely away from any place I could buy either new speakers or used on eBay or Craigslist. Shipping anything heavy here is expensive and nobody wants to bother with shipping to Alaska. But it could be much worse really, my system is pretty decent by most standards. My only worry is the sudden failure of some old component that is not easily replaced. That would be pretty much the day the music died for me! :no:
 
I think you have done well mate considering your location, I bet those Kenwoods are all many would ever need....and I am a sucker for big old veneered cabs...I do wonder what your internet connection is like out there?...
 
My best friend had those speakers in the mid 70's and everyone thought they were awesome. Unfortunately by the early 80's they were trashed. That dude knew how to party!
PS he powered them with a Pioneer 1010
 
I think you have done well mate considering your location, I bet those Kenwoods are all many would ever need....and I am a sucker for big old veneered cabs...I do wonder what your internet connection is like out there?...
Thanks! Yeah the build quality on this model Kenny were amazing and the sound is very good. Neutral would a fair assessment and loads of power for the JBL's more than I could ever possibly need by a factor of 10! Another thing I like is the power amp produces almost no heat. I can't see ever needing or wanting to upgrade unless something fails and EchoWars has retired..
The internet speed has been dismal here. We pay $100 a month for the phone line and 1 mbps speed! I was amazed when visiting Hawaii (another out of the way place) where their speed seem to start at 50mbps. We get 2 cruise ships a week docking here for a day and when they are here the internet just crawls. Stores have to break out the old paper based credit card swipers like it was the 80's because the net is so slow. The phone company has laid another undersea fiber optic cable here and are promising our speed is going to increase 5 fold after January when they get it up and running so we will see. I may even be able to stream music without it dropping out every 30 seconds! wohoo!
 
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My best friend had those speakers in the mid 70's and everyone thought they were awesome. Unfortunately by the early 80's they were trashed. That dude knew how to party!
PS he powered them with a Pioneer 1010
Yeah, they were old war horses of the 70's all right! I see a lot of examples of them for sale on ebay that are completely beat to hell. The speaker enclosures and drivers were built like tank parts tho. I pulled the drivers out of one of them the other day, man they were heavy! The woofer has a 20 lb magnet! We had a popular night club back in the 70's that had one pair of L200's driving the dance floor when the band would be taking a break. They played as loud as the band did! I think so long as you had enough power to drive them without clipping the amp it would be hard to blow them up. The sound would have to be defining! I play mine at a fraction of a watt most evenings and up to around a watt or so and 85db max. At my age it is much more about blowing up my ear drums than the speakers.. :rolleyes:
 
No planned obsolescence here!

Congratulations.

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P.S. - I had a housemate my first year at UAF who was rightly proud of keeping her piano intact through a gold-mining partnership, a divorce, pipeline jobs and poverty, and I bet she has it still...
 
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Thanks! Yeah the build quality on this model Kenny were amazing and the sound is very good. Neutral would a fair assessment and loads of power for the JBL's more than I could ever possibly need by a factor of 10! Another thing I like is the power amp produces almost no heat. I can't see ever needing or wanting to upgrade unless something fails and EchoWars has retired..
The internet speed has been dismal here. We pay $100 a month for the phone line and 1 mbps speed! I was amazed when visiting Hawaii (another out of the way place) where their speed seem to start at 50mbps. We get 2 cruise ships a week docking here for a day and when they are here the internet just crawls. Stores have to break out the old paper based credit card swipers like it was the 80's because the net is so slow. The phone company has laid another undersea fiber optic cable here and are promising our speed is going to increase 5 fold after January when they get it up and running so we will see. I may even be able to stream music without it dropping out every 30 seconds! wohoo!

I feel your pain on the internet speed..Though you are living in a pretty special place! So frustrating here as I am only an hour or so out of the city yet struggle to stream music or even load a page a lot of the time....Problem here being Our government privatised Telstra who now owns all the cable/fiber etc in the country, they charge blood money for their service and all other ISP's have to go through there gear...which of course is never as good.
I recently purchased one of these google chrome cast audio things and have only just started streaming music the last 6 weeks or so...I love it,it also doubles as a remote control (volume) for my old amps... but i need to set it so it jumps between my wifi and mobile phone data (telstra) in order to stop it dropping out.
Man it must be nice to be out there in the wilderness with a great HiFi system and a good dog....what more do you need!
 
Man it must be nice to be out there in the wilderness with a great HiFi system and a good dog....what more do you need!
Having a good fishing boat that doesn't scare the hell out of you in rough water is nice! Now I need a good mountain sled (snowmobile), and in the summer a bike like yours would be fantastic!
 
gold-mining partnership, a divorce, pipeline jobs and poverty,

Yep, Gold mines, pipeline jobs, poverty and a divorce (or 2), looks like you nailed the Alaskan lifestyle pretty good there! :rflmao:
So when did you go to UAF? I never did myself but always liked that Fairbanks had a little bit of university culture.. :)
 
Your sound system is just the gravy on top of a beautiful scenic place you live.
It is so nice when the weather is not cooperating to just have a down day (or sometimes it is more like a week) and listen to music and drown out the storm that is going on outside!
 
'87-'89. Then worked there 1989-1992. I love Alaska. :)
Ah yes, 1989,and the infamous wreck of the Exxon Valdez. What a fiasco that was! It was also the year I finally got back to work full time after a 4 year dry spell, starting with working in Valdez on the cleanup.
What we're you working on after your stint at UAF?
 
Looking good, Dave! :thumbsup: Would love to hear the 700's thru those speakers.

Always wondered about the production numbers bantered about on the Supremes, though. :idea: Seems low.
 
Your story reminds me of me and my 3 older brothers. Over the years, we have always shared or traded stereo equipment between each other, just like you guys. Then again, our father is the one who got all of us interested in stereo equipment, so we've all received "hand me down" gear from him as well. We're much like your family in that regard! And I love the old vintage Kenwood gear and JBL speakers, and the fact that you have breathed new life into them to keep them going!
 
Looking good, Dave! :thumbsup: Would love to hear the 700's thru those speakers.

Always wondered about the production numbers bantered about on the Supremes, though. :idea: Seems low.
I have often wondered about that as well. I hear that only 1000 Supremes were made. Some interpret that as total of all the models (does that include the tuners too??) Others say a thousand of each model, which when talking about a 40 year old series and world wide distribution still isn't a lot. With the nonsensical serial numbering system that no one has cracked the code on it is tough to know for sure..
 
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