Any NEW large flat screens WITH speakers anymore?
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What do you mean by "most"? There are a few without tuners and I have not seen any without speakers. Now most new models have down firing speakers to make for a sleek look and dont sound that great but they are there. If you are not going to run through an amp then a soundbar will make a huge difference for normal TV shows.
ferninando
Lunatic Member
just bought LG 49" HD, 4k, LED backlite, down facing spkrs.
sound is weak at best.
no RCA audio out just optic/ digi but no have any amp with opti digi inputs.
that sux big time for me.
what can i do?
sound is weak at best.
no RCA audio out just optic/ digi but no have any amp with opti digi inputs.
that sux big time for me.
what can i do?
You have a few choices: Buy a new amp. Take back the TV. Dont run the audio out of the TV, if you have a cable or sat box, run the audio right out of that.
j-wes
Active Member
Or buy a DAC to go from optical to rca and keep using the amp you've got.
+1 to checking if your cable box has audio out (if you have one). You'll potentially get less delay between the picture and the sound than you would using analog out from the tv. Not sure if its as noticeable using digital outs and it probably varies tv to tv. My new tv has a bad delay using the analog out from the tv but seems fine using analog out from the cable box
+1 to checking if your cable box has audio out (if you have one). You'll potentially get less delay between the picture and the sound than you would using analog out from the tv. Not sure if its as noticeable using digital outs and it probably varies tv to tv. My new tv has a bad delay using the analog out from the tv but seems fine using analog out from the cable box
Mine does too. It sounds like a lot of reverb.
Copa1934
My ears are bleeding
OK, correction. I first "assumed" (yes I know the part about being an A$$....) that "most" don't have speakers. Some don't, and expect more will follow. With such a high adoption of "Surround Systems", sound bars (I'll pass) and use of Cable and Satellite more and more large screens are being offered with NO tuner. Can't tell you how many I checked with no antenna input (no coaxial connection, and 300ohm terminals went away a while back). I thought due to the thin border that most large screen TV's didn't have speakers. Then I learned that many (not all) have down firing speakers. Yes, stupid. But I guess when you have it wall mounted, which of course is also growing in popularity, then the sound simply deflects (like Bose, sorry had to throw that out there) off the wall.
I found a really nice LG, under $1000 with coaxial input and down firing speakers and 4k. Been wanting a 4k TV for a while now anyway.
I did manage to find one large screen, I believe it was 60", that had front firing speakers. Larger speakers than on my current TV. But $20k I don't have for a TV, and not sure I'd even spend that kind of money if I had it. I'd buy some mono blocks and some tube amps, but not a TV. Maybe a 4k projector and a monster screen.
I found a really nice LG, under $1000 with coaxial input and down firing speakers and 4k. Been wanting a 4k TV for a while now anyway.
I did manage to find one large screen, I believe it was 60", that had front firing speakers. Larger speakers than on my current TV. But $20k I don't have for a TV, and not sure I'd even spend that kind of money if I had it. I'd buy some mono blocks and some tube amps, but not a TV. Maybe a 4k projector and a monster screen.
Copa1934
My ears are bleeding
Um, I don't care, just mentioning it is all. The 75ohm is how I identify if the TV has a tuner. I've also noticed that they don't call them a TV anymore, when there is no tuner, now they're called a Home Theater Display, or something along those lines. So, if it doesn't Actually say TV in the description, chances are it doesn't have a tuner.
uofmtiger
Addicted Member
I have a 43 inch Vizio in my office that is similar to the TV you mentioned. The thing was priced at less than $400, so I compromised. It does make initial setup a pain in the .... The other issue is that it only has one input that is HDMI 2.0. That being said, I knew all these things going in. I wanted a good looking 4k monitor and this one fit the bill. In day to day use, I turn it on with the crappy remote and then feed it a signal from a receiver. I rarely ever open the app or need my iPhone out to use it. I would not recommend it for most people, though. It has too many limitations for general use.
JoeESP9
ESL's & tubes since 83
I understand where you're coming from. I have a Roku, an SACD player, a Verizon FIOS box and an all region Blu-Ray player connected (via HDMI) to a pre/pro (Emotiva UMC-200). The pre/pro is connected (via HDMI) to the TV. Consequently I don't need an internet aware TV with a bunch of apps as firmware. My desktop PC is connected to the TV using HDMI 2
For $29.95 a ROKU Express is worth investigating.
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sxty8goats
Super Member
I just bought a half dozen TVs, helping a friend that wasn't satisfied with the picture until he settled on an LG OLED 55". That was 4 TVs, a few Sony's and the LG. I bought a 55" LG OLED myself and then exchanged it for a 65".
Everything I saw had speakers and many actually promoted their sound. The only one I saw that was any different was a Visio P series that didn't include a tuner. It's entirely possible that I missed models without speakers because I run everything through my HT. Much to my surprise though, the higher end screens all include 'higher end' speaker systems built in. I would think someone spending $6k+ on a TV would be running it through an HT.
uofmtiger
Addicted Member
Mine is hooked to my computers and everything I have in the living room (I have a Denon with three HDMI outs and zone 2 feeds the Onkyo in my office). I control it all with a remote app on my iPhone (which also works with Alexa). I have Roku, AppleTV, Tivo, etc.. and I can watch any of them in either room.
The Vizio does have Casting built in, so if you have a mobile device, you can probably work with it. Like you, I just prefer having direct control of the app (like the Roku you mentioned).
Even my main room, where my Samsung has a tuner, multiple inputs, etc.. I feed everything through my Denon receiver and never really have much need for a tuner (though, it is nice to have in a pinch in case we lose our signal.). It is a lot easier to recommend the Samsung, though. With its built in apps, tuner, etc. it is just a better fit for most people. However, the remote is still pretty awful.
whoaru99
Epic Member
Not doubing what you see, but it seems odd the cable box would be better since the lag is usually caused by the video processing in the TV. Usually taking audio closer to the end of the chain, so to speak, is less lag.
Yeah, often that's the case when you have audio from the TV playing at the same time as the same audio from some other part of the system.
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savatage1973
Addicted Member
The "delay" and especially the "reverb" may be the result of some of the hokey "sound settings" on the TV--the "pseudo-surround", "theater sound" or any number of other "effects" options in the audio menu set-up screen.
