Those don't look fancy enough to be white van speakers. No electro-hormonal discharging fire arrays, no digital ready for primetime logos all over them, no where does it say, these are worth 40,000 dollars but you can have them for under 200 dollars, though my boss will hate me. I'm not saying they aren't, but when I buy white van, I want the most white vanniest speaks I can be swindled into.