Are you most times a treble or bass biased listener?
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sqlsavior
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Having built a pair of Klipschorn copies at age 19 as my second pair of speakers, I might have had a bass bias in my youth. I certainly loved Crime of the Century and DSOTM on them. I spent about 30 years having a bass limit of about 40 Hz, but for most music that's not bad. Now my subs are 3dB down at 25 Hz and I'm fine with it.
My current speakers, may they last forever, make me necessarily a mid-range biased listener, however. ;-)
My current speakers, may they last forever, make me necessarily a mid-range biased listener, however. ;-)
The music is in the mid range - this is news to no one here.
I suppose dance music needs an exaggerated bottom end & obviously hip hop is all about the thump.
So, I get those mixes will be heavy.
IMO & what I shoot for is whatever is on the recording is what I hear.
If the mix is shitty, I'll listen to something else.
Music mixed for earbuds sounds like crap on my system. Thats OK. Earbud people need their tunes too.
There's plenty of music out there for every taste & system. - how cool is that??
I suppose dance music needs an exaggerated bottom end & obviously hip hop is all about the thump.
So, I get those mixes will be heavy.
IMO & what I shoot for is whatever is on the recording is what I hear.
If the mix is shitty, I'll listen to something else.
Music mixed for earbuds sounds like crap on my system. Thats OK. Earbud people need their tunes too.
There's plenty of music out there for every taste & system. - how cool is that??
Bill Ferris
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No, tonally balanced desired, no favoring of treble or bass over the other.
All my house`s room`s stereos, less the living room`s reference system, have at least one sub woofer to supplement the various book shelf type speakers in use`s weak bass.
However, my sunroom`s DQ-10s have L/R Velodyne 15" 400 watt servo powered subs to compliment their weak bottom octave, and those speakers are far from bookshelf in size.
The same Velodyne powered subwoofer setup is used in my bedroom`s stereo setup to supplement the weaker bottom octave of the Mc. XRT-18s in use there.
Well recorded digital music sounds well tonally balanced on any of them, so the lessor quality originally recorded (but desirably written/played music) that comes across these systems is either tolerated, or the player is advanced to the next track of my all day playing WAV. ripped multi-genre currently 15k digital music tracks.
Majority of this house`s stereos tone controls are set flat, and when played at conversational playing SPLs, I might have the receiver`s, or preamp`s loudness function engaged to obtain a tonally balanced SQ.
First time visitors, over the yrs., have on occasion, complimented me on the clear sounding balanced SQ of these stereos as we walk through the house being exposed to the different room`s playing stereos.
All set up for my desired SQ tastes, if others agree, fine, if not, oh well.
All my house`s room`s stereos, less the living room`s reference system, have at least one sub woofer to supplement the various book shelf type speakers in use`s weak bass.
However, my sunroom`s DQ-10s have L/R Velodyne 15" 400 watt servo powered subs to compliment their weak bottom octave, and those speakers are far from bookshelf in size.
The same Velodyne powered subwoofer setup is used in my bedroom`s stereo setup to supplement the weaker bottom octave of the Mc. XRT-18s in use there.
Well recorded digital music sounds well tonally balanced on any of them, so the lessor quality originally recorded (but desirably written/played music) that comes across these systems is either tolerated, or the player is advanced to the next track of my all day playing WAV. ripped multi-genre currently 15k digital music tracks.
Majority of this house`s stereos tone controls are set flat, and when played at conversational playing SPLs, I might have the receiver`s, or preamp`s loudness function engaged to obtain a tonally balanced SQ.
First time visitors, over the yrs., have on occasion, complimented me on the clear sounding balanced SQ of these stereos as we walk through the house being exposed to the different room`s playing stereos.
All set up for my desired SQ tastes, if others agree, fine, if not, oh well.
gizzyman47
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My upstairs living room system doesn't have tone controls so flat for me. The bedroom system is a receiver so I play around with the tone controls depending on the music. I find myself adjusting "increasing" the treble more often than the bass. Probably due to my age "63".
My main system "separates" has tone controls but I run Tone Defeat 99.9% of the time.
Running Yamaha NS-1000m in the main system at the moment. I'll adjust the potentiometers on the speakers if the treble gets too Hot.
My main system "separates" has tone controls but I run Tone Defeat 99.9% of the time.
Running Yamaha NS-1000m in the main system at the moment. I'll adjust the potentiometers on the speakers if the treble gets too Hot.
malden
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treble or bass ?
those two attributes are probably what sells 99% of audio gear.
before I started listening to music critically, I would have said "bass" but after years of seriously listening to different types of music, recordings and systems, I now consider how music is resolved in the middle, which is just as, if not more important than those two extremes
those two attributes are probably what sells 99% of audio gear.
before I started listening to music critically, I would have said "bass" but after years of seriously listening to different types of music, recordings and systems, I now consider how music is resolved in the middle, which is just as, if not more important than those two extremes
The midrange is where we live. But the fireworks are in those tingles at the end of cymbal crashes and the chest-to-crotch rattle felt with each standup bass guitar pluck or bass drum thwack. Sometimes, at concert-level volume, I turn down both the treble and bass a smidge. I don’t want fireworks all the time. But I want it all.
jayvis
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Concert levels just don't do it for me anymore. OK for about a minute before it's pretty uncomfortable. I wanted it all too many times when I was young and am probably paying the price.
Chad Michael
Dissonant Rhino
Curious about the NS-1000m......... re: treble getting hot
Do you think it is dependent on the source material, a characteristic of the speaker, or possibly a 'lively' sounding room??
Romeo Wolf
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I do especially like ample amounts of bass, especially when it's deep & rich enough for your subwoofer to shake the walls. But not so much that it completely overpowers any brilliance. I do like my treble detailed but not piercing hot. Mids are in a bit of a gray area for me.
Actually if you listen to my Fugoo XL with headphones, you can get a good idea of how I like my bass. I have it EQ'd around ~+4Db at 80Hz and about +6Db or so around 60Hz and below, which makes it really well-suited for the rich & woody tone of upright bass (IMO). Take a listen!
Something more complex and fast tempo.
Actually if you listen to my Fugoo XL with headphones, you can get a good idea of how I like my bass. I have it EQ'd around ~+4Db at 80Hz and about +6Db or so around 60Hz and below, which makes it really well-suited for the rich & woody tone of upright bass (IMO). Take a listen!
Something more complex and fast tempo.
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DesertRatt
All Bark, No Bite!
I consider the music and the sound distinctly separate. My first interest is hearing the musical score and performance. That's my purpose of having a stereo. As to the sounds it makes, well some mixer, producer, and engineers shaped it to their personal preferences. I could not care less about their preferences, so I use whatever controls are at hand to transform the sound into what i think serves the score best. e.g. I am my own mixer and engineer to the extent possible and convenient.
Genov
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I usually have treble set a bit higher than the bass. I think that the hardest thing to achieve, is tight, clean bass. I detest separate subwoofers (YMMV) Sure, they go lower, but for me, the magic is in the mid-bass. That’s where the bass pop is.
I run open baffles with separate full-range and bass drivers, and the bass is clean without too much boomieness. IMHOYMMV.
I run open baffles with separate full-range and bass drivers, and the bass is clean without too much boomieness. IMHOYMMV.
gizzyman47
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The NS-1000m's are known as a speaker that can lean towards a brighter presentation. Of course the recording, and room ads its own signature to the sound. Any speaker, can sound inferior if the recording and the room acoustics are not up to par.
I love the detail that the Yamaha's exhibit. I run a tube preamp with a solid state amp which helps smooth out the highs. Of course, the controls on the speaker themselves added with the tone control on the preamp lets you achieve the sound you like.
The Yamaha's are wonderful speakers to my ears and I will always own a set. Actually picked up another pair not to long ago! Couldn't pass them up for the price.
THEWEREWOLF
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BASS works for me. My loudness button is always on and cranked up to full.
Guess I have to cop to a slight bias for a bright-ish mids and highs. I must have, given my great enjoyment of speakers with horn mids and tweeters. I will use tone controls lightly (never more than 2 steps + or -), and at low listening levels I have been known to use the much maligned loudness control. But, I have no pretensions of being a legit audiophile, just a guy who enjoys serious listening sessions in his free time (much more so than watching tv).
That said, I do expect a strong, tight bass for my listening, but never overpowering or boomy. Well, except when I do the backing music for my 4th of July fireworks show, then I run extra strong bass for real thump, especially since it's outdoors and low frequencies kind of get lost easily in that setting. That's also when I trot out the big nasty kabukis, and a passive 15" sub I built in a utility finish cabinet for their once yearly shock and awe campaign. That setup always gets a lot of comments from those in attendance.
That said, I do expect a strong, tight bass for my listening, but never overpowering or boomy. Well, except when I do the backing music for my 4th of July fireworks show, then I run extra strong bass for real thump, especially since it's outdoors and low frequencies kind of get lost easily in that setting. That's also when I trot out the big nasty kabukis, and a passive 15" sub I built in a utility finish cabinet for their once yearly shock and awe campaign. That setup always gets a lot of comments from those in attendance.
