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Asking about Quality Turntable for first user

liemjerry

liemjerry

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Dear all,

Hello I am in a process of built simple system :

-Turntable
-Integrated Amplifier
-Speakers (prefer in bookshelf form and ssubwoofer maybe later)
And now I am preparing to choose Turntable and I am rather confusing because so many choice out there..
The choices is :

1. Onkyo CP-200A : the reference of this TT is minimal on web, but I rather like because its condition
2. Technics SL-3200
3. Dual CS-510
4. Technics SL-D1
5. Rotel RP-5300
6. Grundig PS-1020
7. Marantz 6100

From my friend opinion, was that TT with maximum weight is better than less weight, I can't choose because I don't have any reference that I can hold and believe

Please give me suggestion and if there's any other type is wellcome

Thank you
 
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Either of the Technics would be good. I think the D1 is nicer looking, but doesn't have the auto-return of the 3200.
 
vinylengine has specs for many turntables in their library and you can download documents about tables from that site if you register. I look there for weight of tables all the time. But Kent does know his TTs if you just want a recommendation.
 
hello all
My budget is at about USD800 all and the combination will be :
- turntable
- integrated amplifier
- bookshelf loudspeaker

today I have 2 more choice of Luxman PD-272 at about USD300, also the same price is Thorens TD-150 MK-II
The Marantz 6100 offer is USD369 but the side of platter, I look from my friends photo is rather corrosion
I like turntable with more weight, bacuse it more stable
thanks
 
Greetings,

As mentioned above, the Technics SL D1 is a good starter turntable. Have owned several over the years. I like the Marantz 6100 as its doesn't have electronic circuit boards. Once they go bad, they can be hard to fix. I have a Luxman PD 272 in the shop. It's a beautiful turntable. Sadly it has a bad circuit board and it runs fast. Though my Dual's are complicated, they lack electronics. The Marantz, replace the belt every so often, and a drop of oil on its motor good to go. A nice working Technics, good to go too. My choices,though the Thorens is a nice table..no electronics..good luck.
 
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stereofisher said:
Greetings,

As mentioned above, the Technics SL D1 is a good starter turntable. Have owned several over the years. I like the Marantz 6100 as its doesn't have electronic circuit boards. Once they go bad, they can be hard to fix. I have a Luxman PD 272 in the shop. It's a beautiful turntable. Sadly it has a bad circuit board and it runs fast. Though my Dual's are complicated, they lack electronics. The Marantz, replace the belt every so often, and a drop of oil on its motor good to go. A nice working Technics, go to go too. My choices
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Excellent advice!
 
You should split the budget a little differentlyif you want to optimise sound quality. I'd be looking at $400 -500 on the speakers, with the rest on turntable and amp.

To be honest, unless you already have lots of vinyl, I'd go CD player or streaming. You'll get better sound quality at a fraction of the price.
 
The main thing about the Grundig which would make me nervous is the fact that their gear often past the early 1960's was not sold in the USA. And too many of their best late offerings were European only. The Marantz is a very good, CEC Japan made, simple, reliable very nice belt drive turntable. And takes standard headshells as also does the Technics. Which is why I recommended those, as these models are generally not fussy and perform very well.
 
stereofisher said:
Greetings,

As mentioned above, the Technics SL D1 is a good starter turntable. Have owned several over the years. I like the Marantz 6100 as its doesn't have electronic circuit boards. Once they go bad, they can be hard to fix. I have a Luxman PD 272 in the shop. It's a beautiful turntable. Sadly it has a bad circuit board and it runs fast. Though my Dual's are complicated, they lack electronics. The Marantz, replace the belt every so often, and a drop of oil on its motor good to go. A nice working Technics, good to go too. My choices,though the Thorens is a nice table..no electronics..good luck.
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Yes, I'm agree that the less electronic circuit would be an advantage is there's any malfunction of TT. Yesterday I have offer from a friend for :
Luxman PD-272, in mint condition at USD325 but I have not bargain that offer, also Thorens TD-150 (I don't know MK-II verssion or not) at a good condition, normal, near mint, wood is quite beautiful, but acrylic cover is not so good but no cracked at USD235 (fix price)
Marantz 6100 is good TT , now offer is mint but some corrosion (light corrosion on side of platter) but I don't know wheter it can be cleaned or not
The big worry about all belt drive turntable is belt replacement and availability itself, can we use 33rd party brand or sstuff so that somehow can repalce of bel-drive TT?
Thank you

grottyash said:
You should split the budget a little differentlyif you want to optimise sound quality. I'd be looking at $400 -500 on the speakers, with the rest on turntable and amp.

To be honest, unless you already have lots of vinyl, I'd go CD player or streaming. You'll get better sound quality at a fraction of the price.
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Thank you Grottyash, but truly on 2008 am an audio player and user, that's the last year I enjoyed listening good music, I was using tube pre-power amp, conrad-johnson PV-10 and MV-55 and Ditton Carina DC5 is a pair of that, I am using CD, but now I choose and decide using TT because of oldies and ssound quality for analog I think, so for CD source is not a choice now for me

KentTeffeteller said:
The main thing about the Grundig which would make me nervous is the fact that their gear often past the early 1960's was not sold in the USA. And too many of their best late offerings were European only. The Marantz is a very good, CEC Japan made, simple, reliable very nice belt drive turntable. And takes standard headshells as also does the Technics. Which is why I recommended those, as these models are generally not fussy and perform very well.
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jmchrislip said:
I would choose the Marantz 6100
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Yes, Marantz 6100 goodlooking TT, but I have not tested it yet, but I believe it runs well, one of my choice, but how about belt drive replacement?
 
Finally I am in the 2 Choices :

1. ROTEL RP-3000 for USD350, it comes in mint condition and normal, also with all original parts, Direct Drive System and Manual
2. THORENS TD-165 ffor USD290, it comes in near mint or I can say 8.5 to 9 from 10 scale, all normal and all with original parts except of belt-drive because of its age, Belt Drive System and manual

Help me to decide with considering :
- Durability
- Stability of platter
- Easy to maintenance
- buy back price/ good market bargains
- Easy to change the needlle
- mechanical quality
- less risk of playing ( long good play )

Thank you
 
The Thorens is probably your best bet, I would buy a fully working one at that price any day. You can use those for the rest of your life, and they have good resale value. Check out Vinyl Nirvana if you want to see what can be done with them.

If you're in the US, parts for the Rotel will probably be a lot harder to track down as well.

If you don't buy it. DM me the contact.
 
If I were looking to spend $300 on a turntable, I'd go with a brand new Pro-Ject Essential II. There will be no problems with wear, damage, or parts availability. It's a great-sounding turntable, and there's no reason to think it won't give you at least 15-20 years of trouble-free service. For an $800 system, I'd probably add the Yamaha R-S300 receiver and a pair of Bose 201 speakers.
 
I just don't like the way the pro-jects look. They would probably be more reliable, If the Thorens hasn't been properly serviced. I doubt the motor would last 15-20 years of moderate use. There are plenty of replacement parts around for either table. Both can be upgraded as well. I still think that's a killer price for a Thorens unless something's seriously wrong with it, by it's probably not the best table for someone with no knowledge of the mechanics.
 
50% of your budget on the speakers.

Read this:
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2015/12/19/review-elac-debut-b6-and-f5-loudspeakers/

Get the Technics TT. You can shoot them with a shotgun and they will keep on running. Don't forget to check the stylus under a microscope for wear or be ready to just purchase a new stylus as part of your budget.

Integrated amps? I like Yamaha. You should consider supporting both your turntable and music streaming from your computer. Since you need to watch your budget, consider a Dragonfly DAC for your laptop and run a cable to your amp from the Dragonfly. If your amp has a DAC built in that would be great but if buy a used integrated amp you need to make sure that you have a way to play your turntable and accept quality audio streaming from the internet
 
Learn to solder, and build your own. I'm putting this pile of junk together this weekend, because a Co-Worker bet me I couldn't build a decent system for $100.

The dual drops right into the opening for the original table. I paid 8 bucks for the receiver, got the speakers for free, and 30 for the table. I'm replacing the pre-amps, with kits, and adding 2 4 chip class d amps for power. I pulled transformers out of electronics I found in the dumpster.

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