Eureka!
Ok, not sure what I may have done wrong on the other receiver to give the poor initial impression, but again agonizing over how these B&W's formerly known as paperweights sounded so completely flat. And again miffed as I A/B'd them with the Ohm's - So just for the hell of it I go into the audio adjust with just the B (B&W's) on, and adjust the treble/Bass (I typically keep em both in the 8-10 out of the 1-12 depending on what I'm listening to.), and low and behold I'm not hearing any change; back to A... yep, as usual I can discern the difference in sound with a single increment move of the bass/treble on the Ohm's. But on the B&W's I can go all the way down to -12 and no difference; I'm starting to get excited. I can't unhook the Ohm's fast enough. I get the B&W's plugged into A, and eureka! Miraculously I can now adjust the treble/bass on the B&W's. And more importantly... their sound output is night and day!
I can't describe the relief. It's like having your cousin get back her paternity test and finding out that it's not yours. What?! We've all been there, right!?
Disaster avoided!
Well... my ego took a hit for not being any kind of thorough on checking the simple **** (As I know many of you suggested.). Normally I'm a delicate flower when it comes to my ego, but the joy of being able to enjoy these speakers as I'd expected to has managed to quell that for now. Now I'm sufficiently impressed with these little 20lb. shoe boxes.
So... I'm too busy listening to have bothered Google'n my little audio adjust conundrum. I'm using the A/B front speaker inputs. The EPI's sounded great on the B inputs before they met with their demise. It couldn't have been operator error. I think my brief history here supports that.
So now I just have to decide whether to mount these shoe-boxes in my work van or master bath?
Thanks to all for taking the time to comment.
Ok, not sure what I may have done wrong on the other receiver to give the poor initial impression, but again agonizing over how these B&W's formerly known as paperweights sounded so completely flat. And again miffed as I A/B'd them with the Ohm's - So just for the hell of it I go into the audio adjust with just the B (B&W's) on, and adjust the treble/Bass (I typically keep em both in the 8-10 out of the 1-12 depending on what I'm listening to.), and low and behold I'm not hearing any change; back to A... yep, as usual I can discern the difference in sound with a single increment move of the bass/treble on the Ohm's. But on the B&W's I can go all the way down to -12 and no difference; I'm starting to get excited. I can't unhook the Ohm's fast enough. I get the B&W's plugged into A, and eureka! Miraculously I can now adjust the treble/bass on the B&W's. And more importantly... their sound output is night and day!
I can't describe the relief. It's like having your cousin get back her paternity test and finding out that it's not yours. What?! We've all been there, right!?
Disaster avoided!
Well... my ego took a hit for not being any kind of thorough on checking the simple **** (As I know many of you suggested.). Normally I'm a delicate flower when it comes to my ego, but the joy of being able to enjoy these speakers as I'd expected to has managed to quell that for now. Now I'm sufficiently impressed with these little 20lb. shoe boxes.
So... I'm too busy listening to have bothered Google'n my little audio adjust conundrum. I'm using the A/B front speaker inputs. The EPI's sounded great on the B inputs before they met with their demise. It couldn't have been operator error. I think my brief history here supports that.
So now I just have to decide whether to mount these shoe-boxes in my work van or master bath?
Thanks to all for taking the time to comment.
Will S.
Super Member
That's exactly it!
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Excellent read on upgrading these lowly 705s from paperweights all the way up to shoe boxes.
You mention that there was not vocals in them in the video. I'm guessing you were not using the 2 sets of speaker outputs on the bottom of the RX as that is where the Main A and Main B speakers should be connected (based on a quick look at the OM, what do I know if that is really the right way).
Anyway, are we going to call them the shoe boxes?
You mention that there was not vocals in them in the video. I'm guessing you were not using the 2 sets of speaker outputs on the bottom of the RX as that is where the Main A and Main B speakers should be connected (based on a quick look at the OM, what do I know if that is really the right way).
Anyway, are we going to call them the shoe boxes?
Lol. Well....their diminutive stature (As compared to anything else I have), and the fact that I'm a consummate quipster required that I dub them something? And the first thing that popped into my head was shoebox. Rest assured that in light of their metamorphosis I meant it in the most endearing kind of way. Like... not just any shoe-box, but say... a Jimmy Choo shoe-box. Do Jimmy Choo's even come in boxes?
Ok... back to getting in touch with my inner vagina - Jam'n out some Patricia Barber on the shoe-boxes.
Oh, my reference to the no-vocals was just that the first 10 seconds of the song in the vid didn't have any vocals in it, and I just wanted to acknowledge that when I transitioned over to the Ohm's the content was completely different.
Not germane to my original question, but anybody have an idea why one can adjust the tone on the front speakers A input, but not on the B input?
Just to clarify - The tone adjust is available on the B speakers, but adjusting it has no effect. And just FYI - the receiver is an Integra DTR 5.3
I've never used surround in my house; so I've never delved into configuring the speakers on my receivers. But I wouldn't think there would be some setting whereby you could adjust the tone on your front A speakers, but said setting would negate the ability to do so on the front B speakers. And again... the option is present, it just doesn't do anything. So I'm assuming there is something wrong with the receiver unless someone here tells me otherwise.
Maybe the audio Gods are telling me to get a proper integrated amp? This particular setup is in my garage where I strictly stream my music via Chromecast audio.
Thanks
Just to clarify - The tone adjust is available on the B speakers, but adjusting it has no effect. And just FYI - the receiver is an Integra DTR 5.3
I've never used surround in my house; so I've never delved into configuring the speakers on my receivers. But I wouldn't think there would be some setting whereby you could adjust the tone on your front A speakers, but said setting would negate the ability to do so on the front B speakers. And again... the option is present, it just doesn't do anything. So I'm assuming there is something wrong with the receiver unless someone here tells me otherwise.
Maybe the audio Gods are telling me to get a proper integrated amp? This particular setup is in my garage where I strictly stream my music via Chromecast audio.
Thanks
So... I'm too busy listening to have bothered Google'n my little audio adjust conundrum. I'm using the A/B front speaker inputs. The EPI's sounded great on the B inputs before they met with their demise. It couldn't have been operator error. I think my brief history here supports that.
So now I just have to decide whether to mount these shoe-boxes in my work van or master bath?
I am glad to hear that you've gotten to enjoy the 705s. I have three pairs of these British shoe boxes, and I like 'em better than almost any others that aren't stratospheric in price (the DM1400s really work well with home theater, especially a good blu ray). So now I just have to decide whether to mount these shoe-boxes in my work van or master bath?
I disagree a bit with other posters regarding the appropriate amp for B&W speakers, though... my speakers ain't 705s, but my Carter Administration-built Luxman R-1050 does okay with my DM23s and the 1400s.