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BIC 1000

tazman3276

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OK, I'll join in. Here's mine:

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My Empire 2000Z is on it in this picture from a few years ago. Currently, the table is out of the base because the right front corner of the base has come apart and I need to fix it.

Taz, the arm tube-headshell coupler must just be pulled out of the arm tube and not broken, right? It looks pretty nice, otherwise. It was given to you? What a stroke of luck. I had to buy mine! I got the exact same accoutrements with mine, too. I later got an R2 remote on ebay for cordless remote operation. It comes in handy (as would the corded version) for temporary interruption like if the phone rings or someone is at the door.

Good luck!

Doug
 
OK, I'll join in. Here's mine:

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My Empire 2000Z is on it in this picture from a few years ago. Currently, the table is out of the base because the right front corner of the base has come apart and I need to fix it.

Taz, the arm tube-headshell coupler must just be pulled out of the arm tube and not broken, right? It looks pretty nice, otherwise. It was given to you? What a stroke of luck. I had to buy mine! I got the exact same accoutrements with mine, too. I later got an R2 remote on ebay for cordless remote operation. It comes in handy (as would the corded version) for temporary interruption like if the phone rings or someone is at the door.

Good luck!

Doug
Have everything working on mine except occasionally it won't trip at end of record. Would like to find one with that base, cool.
 
Mine came with the standard WB20 base. I got the deluxe WB22 base off eBay shortly after. Give me a bit and I'll come back on and post the service bulletin for adjusting the end-of-record trip.

Doug
 
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OK, I'll join in. Here's mine:

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My Empire 2000Z is on it in this picture from a few years ago. Currently, the table is out of the base because the right front corner of the base has come apart and I need to fix it.

Taz, the arm tube-headshell coupler must just be pulled out of the arm tube and not broken, right? It looks pretty nice, otherwise. It was given to you? What a stroke of luck. I had to buy mine! I got the exact same accoutrements with mine, too. I later got an R2 remote on ebay for cordless remote operation. It comes in handy (as would the corded version) for temporary interruption like if the phone rings or someone is at the door.

Good luck!

Doug
Hi Doug
I was waiting for you to show up. I knew that you would. The end of the head shell is broken off but there’s a piece of it in the tone arm. I’m going to try to glue it back together. If I can’t fix it I’ll need to feel a new one. One of the wires need to be reattached. I’ll keep you posted on how I make out. I would never let a BIC TT go to trash. I was chatting with sluggo and was talking about doing a BIC only thread. Let me know what you think ?
 
Hi Doug
I was waiting for you to show up. I knew that you would. The end of the head shell is broken off but there’s a piece of it in the tone arm. I’m going to try to glue it back together. If I can’t fix it I’ll need to feel a new one. One of the wires need to be reattached. I’ll keep you posted on how I make out. I would never let a BIC TT go to trash. I was chatting with sluggo and was talking about doing a BIC only thread. Let me know what you think ?
There is a arm end on the bay. It is held by 2 screws in the arm tube.
 
Yeah, I think Adam (Turntable Experts aka Southside Service) sells those on ebay. I think it's he that sells them. Somebody does. They look a bit different from originals where they insert into the arm tube but I'm sure they function the same.

It would be great to have a dedicated BIC thread!

I thought I had the adjustment for the end-of-record trip on this laptop but I can't find it now. I'll have to look in my paper documents. It's actually supposed to be to stop the end-of-record trip from constantly operating but it does both. Since the second motor operates the cycling mechanism, the 1000 doesn't work the same way as the others in the line up. The others operate the standard way with the trip pawl being shoved into the way of the boss on the platter spindle. The 1000 works by a switch closing at the end to start the motor.

Doug
 
Yeah, I think Adam (Turntable Experts aka Southside Service) sells those on ebay. I think it's he that sells them. Somebody does. They look a bit different from originals where they insert into the arm tube but I'm sure they function the same.

It would be great to have a dedicated BIC thread!

I thought I had the adjustment for the end-of-record trip on this laptop but I can't find it now. I'll have to look in my paper documents. It's actually supposed to be to stop the end-of-record trip from constantly operating but it does both. Since the second motor operates the cycling mechanism, the 1000 doesn't work the same way as the others in the line up. The others operate the standard way with the trip pawl being shoved into the way of the boss on the platter spindle. The 1000 works by a switch closing at the end to start the motor.

Doug
Yes, I saw the supplement on vinylengine. The 1000 trip arm is different. Mine has a round stub, not the flat tong it shows. It also mentions in the text that it has been changed to correct this issue. But my issue is intermittent. I tried adjusting it & seemed to make no difference except if I move it too far it sticks in cycle mode.
 
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Oh, so it IS at Vinyl Engine. I couldn't find it. It sounds like you're way ahead of me, anyway. :D

There are trip parts on the cam and those have to work correctly, too, like on the other models so it could be similar issues with those.

Doug
 
Folks,
I've recently picked up a BIC 1000 and after replacing the motor speed card, it's working great. There's just one small thing I'm trying to troubleshoot and I would appreciate a little advice if someone can point me in the right direction. When the tonearm lifts, there's a sound like something plastic or metal is rattling around for a moment. It doesn't appear to affect any of the operation of the table — but I would like to eliminate the sound if I can.

I've included a link to the video, which I hope is loud enough to hear the sound. https://streamable.com/ij9jav

So far I have taken apart the lever and reapplied dampening fluid to slow the tonearm decent (and I thought maybe something in there was rattling). But that didn't eliminate the sound. I was considering removing and cleaning the main red cam next, as it seems the sound occurs when the cam rotates and the arm lifts. But with all the electronics, I'm still learning how the 1000 is similar and different than my 960 and 980 tables.

Thanks for any guidance you can provide!
Tony
 
Tony, what you are hearing are the micro switches working which control the cycle motor. It's completely normal, just a bit different from we
re used to hearing from other, conventional tables.

Doug
 
Oh good! This is my first 1000 and I thought maybe something was wrong. Sounds like it’s in good shape then. Anything special about maintaining this model?
 
Not really except to be aware that cycle functions are controlled by the separate motor and not by gearing on the platter shaft turning the big red cam. So, any issues related to the cycle won't be related to the platter revolving EXCEPT (there's always an "except") the end-of-record trip.

That is still controlled by a boss on the platter shaft striking a pawl. However, the pawl initiates a lever operating a switch to start the cycle motor and not having the big red cam shoved so the gears engage.

Other than that, it's still the same basic mechanism as the other original 900 series tables. So, cleaning and lubrication, etc., is the same.

Doug
 
I appreciate the guidance. Thankfully the auto return works properly. And with the new speed card in place, it’s keeping consistent speed too. Now that I know the noises are normal - I think it’s 100%. Thanks again!
 
Oh no, I don't know what I did — but now the BIC 1000 has no power. No signs of life of any kind. I was finessing the speed just a bit to dial in 4 volts and then stabilize the lights, and I had just finished up. I listened to a full Beatles album with the BIC 1000 supported between two tables so I could access the underside. Once the album was over, I unplugged everything, put it back in the base and plugged it back in and hooked it up to the preamp. But now the 1000 is completely unresponsive, as if there's no power at all. Nothing lights up. There's no hum or signs of life. Any ideas on what I could have bumped that would render a fully operational 1000 to a powerless brick in a matter of seconds? I'm way out of my element here, I've never rendered a BIC unresponsive...
 
Oh no, I don't know what I did — but now the BIC 1000 has no power. No signs of life of any kind. I was finessing the speed just a bit to dial in 4 volts and then stabilize the lights, and I had just finished up. I listened to a full Beatles album with the BIC 1000 supported between two tables so I could access the underside. Once the album was over, I unplugged everything, put it back in the base and plugged it back in and hooked it up to the preamp. But now the 1000 is completely unresponsive, as if there's no power at all. Nothing lights up. There's no hum or signs of life. Any ideas on what I could have bumped that would render a fully operational 1000 to a powerless brick in a matter of seconds? I'm way out of my element here, I've never rendered a BIC unresponsive...
Fuse. Switch issues. AC wire pulled off. (they are slide on connectors.)
 
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