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Counting the Cost of Tuner Lust

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For some months now I have been thinking of upgrading my tuner. Probably, this won't happen, for various reasons. It's sort of like daydreaming about trading my lovely 65yo wife for a couple 32yo for an hour or two. IOW, pure lust. Uh, not that I, myself, would ever harbor such illicit thoughts of adulterous behavior. Possibly to my credit, I'm at a place in life where I spend a lot more Walter Mitty time on the tuner than on females, even though I am cursed with a pornographic memory.

One of the main factors for me is my demand for remote control. However, that narrows options too much, so we'll just ignore that one here.

Another factor is that it does seem to be a buyer's market, though how true that may be for some of the best models, I'm uncertain. Obviously, streaming, big companies like Clear Channel's homogenized programming, and commercial radio ads have pressured the tuner market downward, too.

An addition to the ignore list for me is limited vertical space available in my cabinet. That, and the remote control thing are dismissed. However, back when they used to count, I thought I'd settled on a Magnum Dynalab MD-90. However, reading about the FT-101a certainly raises questions about price, build quality and performance that I am not technically able to answer.

Furthermore, the new(er) tuners I am using* sound fine to me, but vintage tuner guys say, "No."

If I bought a vintage model, I'd want a restored one, or have it restored by someone who knows what the heck he's doing, including alignment. And I was thinking of spending as much as a grand, or a bit more, at one point. That might well not cover what I'd want vintage.

And, basically, spending that much to get that one college station I like doesn't really make much sense, now does it? Probably depends on who you ask, I know.

The fictional Toby, from The West Wing, once said this about looking at a yacht brochure he received in the mail, "No, I can't afford a yacht, but the fifteen minutes I daydreamed about what I'd name it was the best quarter-hour all week."

Yeah, I am still considering upgrading my tuner. At least in Mitty-land, where tuner lust is free,


*Sony XDR-F1HD, Yamaha T-S500, Pro-Ject Tuner Box S, NAD 4130.
 
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I love my MD90.
Paid through the nose when I bought it new.
Thought about selling it when it wasn't getting much use but the resale value made me sick.
Have since discovered an excellent College Radio Station and am so glad I kept it.
It really sounds good and is built very well.
 
Despite an ever-dwindling selection of FM stations to listen to I still enjoy my Sansui TU-9900. I use it at least once a week for a couple of hours, often simply early morning news/talk on AM...far below it's capabilities. It's a great sounding piece with heft in every sense of the word and looks beautiful. I much prefer it to the Sony XDR-F1HD I had for many reasons. If you can live without a remote (as you state) I say look for a vintage Sansui. I only sold my TU-717 because I found the 9900 at a steal; both are great to look at and listen to.
 
Why not enjoy the ride through the galaxy of less-coveted but still competent tuners out there? Plenty of fun stuff out there with a $20 note and a few decent thrift shops to rummage through.
 
If you haven't owned a tube tuner, find an updated stereo Sherwood 3000. The Dyna FM-3 was my gateway drug to tube-tuner land. If it doesn't work out, you can recover most of your modest investment. Otherwise you'll always wonder...
 
I faced a similar problem.. and only found a resolution last week! I feel your pain...

The problem with every vintage tuner out there is that they're just looking for a place to lay down and croak. And good luck getting somebody to restore one. You're talking half your budget, shipping costs, and a 6 month wait. And still no guarantee. Personally not something I want to entertain. There's lots of great vintage tuners out there and its definitely a buyers market... I know. I think I looked at every vintage tuner out there.

There are only a few choices for new. Very few. Magnum Dynalab, as you said. Pricey. Worth it? Going by the reviews I'd say so. MD90, MD90t, etc. Skip the others that are back to the above statements. Just old enough to be a problem.

Accuphase was my choice. Not the old 100 pound monsters either. T-109, T-109v, T-105, something like that. I just got lucky when one showed up on my radar, and I bought it. By far the best tuner I've owned. Built like a tank. Super quality through out. Inside is a work of art. With your pornographic memory, if you did ever see one with the lid off you wouldnt be able to un-see it!! Super attention to detail and lay out.

So coming from a guy who was just in your shoes last week.. there you have it. Only 2 real choices. Magnum Dynalab. Accuphase.

If you must deviate... Sony ST-S730es, JVC FX-1010, Onkyo T-9090
 
Are we (Analog tuner listeners) a dying breed ?

I say that while listening to my Yamaha T-2

My answer: Lack of Quality FM broadcasts are killing us. This fact is why I'm reluctant to put more money into tuners although I need to get my T-2 spruced up. If the T-2 was my only tuner I might pay the buck$... But I have a Yamaha T-85 updated by Punker X

But who knows... ?
 
I'd say yes.. we are a dying breed.

The Yamaha T-2 is a nice piece. Would have bought one myself if I had found a good example.

The quality has gone down for sure. Not like the old days with Texar Audio Prism's pushing a Orban Optimod on the air! Those were the days. Big sound, and pushing the limits.
 
I have recovered from tuner lust, after owning and using a number of good tuners. Currently, my ADS T2 sits unused and unconnected...there is just so little worth listening to in the local market. OTOH, I have discovered Radio Garden and NRK Radio.
 
I have recovered from tuner lust, after owning and using a number of good tuners. Currently, my ADS T2 sits unused and unconnected...there is just so little worth listening to in the local market. OTOH, I have discovered Radio Garden and NRK Radio.

I agree that the KC market doesn't offer much to listen to.

However I still would like to find a nice tuner for a "keeper" and good performance. But it seems like what I see at the local stores are the very low end tuners that aren't worth bothering with.
 
If your looking for a vintage tuner with great performance and over the top build quality than check out a Harman and Kardon Citation 18. They are just very difficult to find as back in 1977 they cost about 600 bucks.
fmtunerinfo.com has a nice write up and link to pictures.

BillWojo
 
I agree that the KC market doesn't offer much to listen to.

However I still would like to find a nice tuner for a "keeper" and good performance. But it seems like what I see at the local stores are the very low end tuners that aren't worth bothering with.

It takes persistence and some luck - I got my ADS tuner at in estate sale in the last minutes of the sale for fifteen bucks.
 
People keep saying on this and other forums that there's practically no OTA FM worth listening to. I wonder if they're excluding anything that isn't clear stereo, which is not important. Most people in the US now live in or near a major metropolitan area. I live on the edge of the San Francisco bay area. My best tuner has just 5 presets, and it's not enough.
 
I am lucky there are still a couple of great stations here in the Northwest. My weapons of choice are the Yamaha T-2 and CT-7000.
 
The only standalone tuner I have experience with is my Akai AT-2600 - It's a rather nice little vintage tuner if you can find one (they pop up here and there, but are somewhat uncommon).

Most of my other power sources are receivers, but I'd still like to hunt down a Pioneer TX-9100, Kenwood KT-7001, or Onkyo T-9 to try at some point. I don't listen to a lot of FM, but tuners are still fun to have - and are definitely better than the built-in ones on my receivers.
 
The radio in and around Seattle is abysmal. IF I'm just putsing around town in my car I might turn on talk radio or npr, but other than that it's pretty slim pickings unless you like the noise from KEXP these days. I can't remember the last time I had radio on in the house.
 
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