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CR-800 Tuner issue

pa_200

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I have three questions for all, regarding my CR-800.

First, every time I power up the unit with Tuner selected and tuned to a good Stereo Station, I get a plop after around 1 minute, a second one after 2 minutes and a third and last one after 2:30 minutes.

No plops with the tuning needle off center and the stereo light off.

Everything else works and the sound is great. Made several test with AUX, Tape and Phono, no plop at all.

I haven't recapped or touched the tuner board in any way so far. Only the Power Supply has got new electrolytic 3 years ago.

Any idea where to look at and start?


Second question is about these three transistors, the unit has quit a lot of them.

2SA706, 2SC458, 2SC1124 are well known for failure after all these years and listed on the top-ten-worst-transistor list.

Are there some transistors in positions, which are well known as trouble makers and should be replaced as precautionary measure while the unit is on the bench?

Lastly, where can I find a good scan of the service manual?
 
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Can anyone offer some help to solve my issue with the plop when playing the tuner in Stereo??

“First, every time I power up the unit with Tuner selected and tuned to a good Stereo Station, I get a plop after around 1 minute, a second one after 2 minutes and a third and last one after 2:30 minutes.“
 
I could narrow the issue down to the Tuner board, it’s not coming from any other area.

Can anybody give me a hint, if this "plop sound" is typically caused by a bad capacitor or a bad transistor? After a warm up time, around 3 minutes, everything is fine for the rest of the playing time.

On that board there are many 2SC458 and quit a few low value capacitors. I don’t want to change all of them if it’s not necessary.
 
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I could narrow the issue down to the Tuner board, it’s not coming from any other area.

Can anybody give me a hint, if this "plop sound" is typically caused by a bad capacitator or a bad transistor? After a warm up time, around 3 minutes, everything is fine for the rest of the playing time.

On that board there are many 2SC458 and quit a few low value capacitors. I don’t want to change all of them if it’s not necessary.


If they are the outhouse style 2SC458's you need to replace them with either of these KSC1815 / KSC1845 .

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2SC1124> KSC2690 / KSC2073

2SA706> KSA1381ESTU / BD136 / KSA1220
 
I have already replaced some of the 2SC458, (TR129-134) but the plop is still audible.
But the main question for me, is this plop typically caused by a bad capacitor or by a transistor?
 
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