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Dahlquist DQ10 Recap and Refoam and Such

Serial was way above that # shown in post #4.
Do you mind sharing the serial numbers? I have a spreadsheet with what the speaker was and what it is today for the speakers I have that information. Hoping to get the year produced to match up with serial numbers. First three is enough if you want to remain clandestine.

A thread about your particular pair of DQ-10s showing the old caps and what you are going to use to replace them and those questions about changing the values might be an interesting read. Fireguru seems to be recapping some great speakers with his posts and then moving to the next set of speakers.
 
I did not mean to take over this thread.

As far as I recall the serial numbers were written on the original boxes that I still have at another location, out of state. I could ask a person at that location now to read it out for me; only one box is easy to get to. Serial numbers are not on the speakers themselves, and I do recall they are not in sequence.

As far as caps, I have no experience with different capacitor brands, nor any reported sonic differences in speakers, especially premium cost ones. I used to work with capacitors, so I am dubious about that.
 
Time Aligned. That's the word I was looking for earlier. Dahlquist called it Phased Array Mounting. Whatever.

Here are the bits I ordered (total counts):
Qty 2 of Solen 8.2uF 400V Polypropylene Capacitor Part # 027-564 (original was 8.5uf)
Qty 6 of Solen 6.2uF 400V Polypropylene Capacitor Part # 027-558 (original was 6.0uf and 6.5uf on mine. schematic says they are all 6.0. Whatever.)
Qty 2 of Solen 16uF 400V Polypropylene Capacitor Part # 027-578 (original was 16uf. Schematic says 14 to 16uf. So they say Whatever)
Qty 2 of 80uF 100V Electrolytic Non-Polarized Crossover Capacitor Part # 027-358 (I've seen people put in film caps here. It's a bypass cap across the woofer. It is not in the signal path. Save your money. Save a lot of money! **Edit** Apparently I am bad at reading schematics. the 80uf is in the audio path the the "mid woofer". I still don't know that I would spend $35 for the solen film capacitor. But if I did then no none will ever have to service these again.).
Qty 2 of Dayton Audio PMPC-0.10 0.10uF 250V Precision Audio Capacitor Part # 027-200
I actually ordered: Audyn Cap Plus 0.15uF 1200V Double Layer MKP Metalized Polypropylene Foil Crossover Capacitor Part # 027-127 But that's nuts. This is going to the super tweeter that is a crappy piezo device that generates frequencies that only young dogs can hear. I ended up not installing them in the DQ-10's and I am going to use them as a bypass capacitor on the tweeter when I recap my 4435's. A much better place for them where they might actually do some good. If you believe in bypass caps at all. I'm on the fence on that issue but every studio monitor I own has bypass caps in them. Just saying. 4312's had them. L100's did not. Just saying.
This is what I ended up putting in:
Qty 2 of 667-ECW-F2154JAQ Film Capacitors Film Capacitors 0.15uF 250VDC 5% MPP L/S=10mm (Mouser. Originally ordered for HPM100's but I upgraded to a couple of caps in series to get the value I wanted. Again, going to a super tweeter on the HPM100's that I personally cannot hear anything come out of even with a signal generator).
But to be honest you can just leave the little metallic capacitors in place. They are just fine.
Here is everything I took out:
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Interesting that these yellow caps are made in Mexico and they look just like the ones in the 4435's. I wonder.
I ended up removing all of these caps instead of leaving them in place (and disconnected) because the crossover is visible through the back of the speaker. I still do not understand that decision by the manufacturer. I don't think having an open back seriously affects the acoustics. And could they possibly have found a worse material for generating rattles? And letting dust accumulate in places that you can't clean? Were they trying to let audio geeks show off their cool speakers? I have a clear Lucite Bose subwoofer that does it right. Wish I had a set of the clear HPM100's. Came close once but got outbid. Went for $1004.00 as I recall. Nuts.
From my first picture you see that I have the stubby leg model. There is also a model that has a raised mounting base. That's probably better sounding but the stubby legs are way cooler. The raised bases would not have gotten past quality control. I do suggest gluing the stubby legs if they have come loose. They are held in by one central screw and a tiny nail to keep them from rotating. I don't think they were ever glued. Now they are.

Once I got everything screwed, soldered, glued, taped and pushed back in place, I gave them a listen. Something was missing. Yep. A blown fuse on one of the tweeter thingies. It was a strange 2/3 amp value or something like that. I found something close and put it in. But it did not fit solidly. So I tried to bend the fuse holder to make it tighter and some of the metal fell off in my hand. I wonder if that could be the cause of the "bang it to fix it" problem? I'm thinking so. I put a temporary alligator clip in place to hold the fuse and everything was right in the world again.

Something was still missing. OH, Badges. I forgot the badges. There is a guy on EB that remakes badges. He has Dahlquist but they are just printed, not molded like the originals. I wonder if that will affect the sound?

So, how do they sound you ask. Much much better. Even good. They do not have the low end for modern rock music. I love how they handle piano performances. George Winston and such. Dahlquist did make a subwoofer, DQ-1 I believe with a MX-1 crossover. You will probably have better luck finding a ventilator. But I did put it on my bucket list. I switched my receiver from "pure direct" to "straight" which adds in my subwoofers the way I have it configured. Now the DQ-10's sound simply wonderful. Next up: Tannoy System 8. . .or maybe AR3a, all the parts are here for both.

Be safe. Gotta order my Dr. Fauci Bobblehead too.
I am new to this group but am in the process of updating my DQ10s and really appreciate this post on the crossovers, but wanted to point out that the 80uf 100v Electrolytic Non-Polarized Crossover Capacitor Part # 027-358, might be incorrect as its really quite inexpensive, $2.10 on parts express..
 
It is a bypass capacitor and is not in the audio path. It just shunts some of the frequencies away. If you look at a 80uf film capacitor it will be incredibly large and incredibly expensive and an incredible waste of money. But it will work just fine if it makes you happy. They do last pretty much forever but its not worth it in my world.
But do use film capacitors for anything that the audio flows through to get to the speakers.
 
If you look at the schematic of the crossover you will see that C1, the 80µF cap is in the signal path of the midwoofer so it does make a difference and FreddyMac2 will proclaim a nice improvement using a film cap in that position. Since an inexpensive polypropylene film cap is 20 bucks it does cost a bit to upgrade a pair of DQ-10s. On my list but not at the top of that list.

Late version DQ-10 schem. REVISED.jpg
 
Yes, I guess someone already mentioned that is a series cap in a previous post on this thread. If you can find a good film cap then that is a more long lasting solution. Make sure it will fit or that there is some other location it can be installed. I choose not to get into a discussion about audio quality of audio capacitors (again). I never could figure out the design of that crossover. Maybe its just the way it was drawn but I have a head ache again looking at it.

I'm sure the interweb will enjoy seeing the part you selected.

Stay safe.
 
Folks ty-wrap em to the crossover support arms. It looks odd. Mine are very enjoyable and I'm not moving forward on that yet. But a nice 80µF film cap can be spendy if one wants to go that route.
 
Do you mind sharing the serial numbers? I have a spreadsheet with what the speaker was and what it is today for the speakers I have that information. Hoping to get the year produced to match up with serial numbers. First three is enough if you want to remain clandestine.

A thread about your particular pair of DQ-10s showing the old caps and what you are going to use to replace them and those questions about changing the values might be an interesting read. Fireguru seems to be recapping some great speakers with his posts and then moving to the next set of speakers.
Hey blue shadow, I was just going over this older post and was totally curious about these serial numbers on the dhalquist dq10 speakers. I had aquired a set in 2004 from a friend and they were in bad shape. They sat in a garage until 2010 and I rebuild them . New capacitors, had regnar redo the woofers. They are definitely great speakers! Power hungry for sure, I drive them with a 2205 and a c29. My question for you is I have the paper serial numbers above the fuse holder # 11273 and 11274 I have always been curious about dating them! Thanks any input would be helpful
 
Joining the fun here. I just picked up a pair of DQ-10 this past weekend at an estate sale and the serial number looks quite early in production according to Blue Shadow’s wisdom above. Non mirrored. I think I’d like to try my hand at DIYing that after I finish refoaming the woofers.

I’d also appreciate some advice on restoring/replacing the front metal grille. One of mine has a decent amount of rust which has subsequently crumbled to dust for a large section near the bottom of the grille. No sign of water anywhere else on the speakers so not entirely sure what happened.
 

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I have made new a set of similar serial numbered 10s as they came with mostly electrolytic caps that early.

You can buy expanded metal to replace the damaged piece but you’ll appreciate some metalworking and bending experience. Doubt it would be hard to form a complete new piece.

I would start your very own thread on your speaker restoration adventure and put in pics of the grille issue. I’m still messing with DQ-10s, refreshing and mirroring an upgraded set and comparing to one of my previous restorations.

A full refresh is some work but well worth it. My 10s are very smooth sounding, balanced from the upper bass to the top and fill the room with great imaging. I have subs for the bottom end.
 
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I have made new a set of similar serial numbered 10s as they came with mostly electrolytic caps that early.

You can buy expanded metal to replace the damaged piece but you’ll appreciate some metalworking and bending experience. Doubt it would be hard to form a complete new piece.

I would start your very own thread on your speaker restoration adventure and put in pics of the grille issue. I’m still messing with DQ-10s, refreshing and mirroring an upgraded set and comparing to one of my previous restorations.

A full refresh is some work but well worth it. My 10s are very smooth sounding, balanced from the upper bass to the top and fill the room with great imaging. I have subs for the bottom end.
Thanks Blue Shadow. I took your advice and started my own thread here, if you want to follow my progress.
 
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