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BrocLuno

BrocLuno

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My wife brought home a copy of Bonnie Raitts Takin My Time ($0.25) in nice shape :)

I spin it up and I like B side with some good blues. Tricky cymbal work, fretless bass & slide guitar. Had the Shure Premier (M75) with the N75edT2, got the Alessandro MS1 cans on and was lovin life :)

A little sibilance on some of her S's - prolly to close to the mic? OK trade for the Grado Red -no that's not it, too mushy on cymbals and a bit muddy on the bass :scratch2: Stick in the 440MLa, nope still some sibilance and bit too brash on the cymbals :thumbsdn:

OK, drag out the gold plated queen - AT150MLX. Easy now, balance this thing up and drop the needle - Yup :banana:

Sibilance is gone - now it's an enunciated S close to the mic, but it's clear. Cymbals clear and the bass is tight. Yup - the way it needs to be. Petty amazing cartridge when you have details to listen for :yes:

The old Shure Premier is still one of my favorite all around just listening cartridges. But when you need the details, it can't quite compete. I just don't play unknown vinyl with the 150. But once I know it's OK - crank that sucker :)
 
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Do you have a system for rolling your cartridges.
I assume that you have them all mounted on headshells already, identical headshells? Are the weight of each unit fairly close so you don't need to do major re-balancing each time.
What would you have to do to make each unit identical in weight so there is no need to re-balance each time you swap cartridge ?
 
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What would you have to do to make each unit identical in weight so there is not need to re-balance each time you swap cartridge ?
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This is exactly the question I too have wondered over. The idea of quick change carts appeals. But not to the extent the party stops. Must it?
 
Parts Express sells dark gray putty that is normally used as gasketing material for mounting woofers, so that there's a good air-seal and no rattling. This is WONDERFUL to use for damping resonances in headshells, AND for adding a little mass so that headshells can be easily swapped without having to readjust the arm.

The stuff comes mounted on paper in a tight coil.

Fred
 
Dentist office have unlimited supply of small thin sheet of lead from the Xray films.
That was what I was thinking of using to do the same job of the putty.
The putty would be a lot easier, thanks for the tip! :thmbsp:
 
My cartridges and headshells are in groups. The ones that service the AT PL120 and other tables that use the Technics mounting distances are in one group. The JVC and Sanyo use Pioneer mounting distance (48mm) so they are in group two. I have a digital pocket scale so I can get the weights pretty close. If you use SS scews for some and aluminum screws for others, Ortofon with weight in or out and such, stamped shells for some and cast shells for others, you can get within a couple of grams easily. Using Freds putty or X-ray lead would allow you to get real close, if not dead nutz on. That'll be a goal when I remount some.

I'm going to thin the herd as I have some do nothing cartridges - that is they do nothing sonically, like the Tonar 2000. So I'll refine my system. I also have some to mount the first time like an NOS Empire. AND I need to get my SA-8800 with adjustbale phono loading into the mix. So, my summer and fall has all the tweaking and tuning I can stand already built in.

And I have aging parents issues and such, so things are slowing down as I have less available time. But, having a selection of cartridges makes the time I do have that much more fun :)
 
Funny I'm spinning Atlantic Blues "guitar " at the moment on my gold plated AT155LC .
Off topic , but I've been looking at those Allesandro's , seem like a deal compared the the "supposed" model in G ? Is it so ?


Now back to regular programing and why I will have a hard time going to a fixed headshell arm .:D
 
AT155LC was the predecessor so it fits right in here. I LOVE my Alessandros. They displaced my Koss HV1/Lc's and they kicked a lot of cans down the road. The MS-1's are a good buy, they are just so easy to wear and the music is all there :)
 
the old girl , was never out of the box until a 5 or 6 months ago.

Will have to think about those MS-1 's , mail order only round here .
 

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You got 40 hours on that one yet? It'll sweeten up about then.

The AT LC (line contact) morphed into the ML & MLX (micro-line). Any AT cartridge above 14/140 is a definite keeper :)

I got my MS-1's mail order as they are not on the street here either.
 
Yeah got more than that on it , over 100 for sure . Didn't thrill me on the Thorens so tried it on the Sansui and bingo ! I guess arm mass or other voodoo ? I would like to try it again on the Thorens as it is the most $$ cart I own but for me it just didn't seem to sing on the TP16 arm no matter what I did . When I threw it on the Sansui it just jumped out . I think I may have posted on here about it ? Anyway it's all good now .
 
Bet the Sansui has an S arm? I think Audio Technica does a lot of engineering and R&D on what fits the biggest market segment? At the time, it was Japanese tables with S & J arms. I've never had an AT act up on one :)
 
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Bet the Sansui has an S arm? I think Audio Technica does a lot of engineering and R&D on what fits the biggest market segment? At the time, it was Japanese tables with S & J arms. I've never had an AT act up on one :)
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Yup , s arm . I just thought it would be better on the Thorens (straight arm) as that is the better table but no ! Anyway's moved the Thorens into the main system with other carts and the At has found it's home on the Sansui with the heavier arm (I guess as have no clue on mass of the arm) I wanted it to work and on the Thorens and tried for few months I think ? Anyway it's a win win situation now and both tables sound great to me . Just the whole compliance thing is way over my head , I read the stuff on cart DB and it's like latin to me :boring::boring:
 
Experimenting and finding matches is a valid way to go. Doing the calculus may save a single cartridge user/buyer from issues? But, to those of us who have choices, it's a no brainer - spin it and see what happens :)
 
BrocLuno said:
Had the Shure Premier (M75) with the N75edT2, got the Alessandro MS1 cans on and was lovin life :)

A little sibilance on some of her S's - prolly to close to the mic? OK trade for the Grado Red -no that's not it, too mushy on cymbals and a bit muddy on the bass :scratch2:
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Do you know if your N75 stylus is the original nude diamond or the newer downgraded type from Shure ? The difference is easily seen in the pictures found in my link here:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=247183

In the first case you might consider retipping the nice old stylus by the Expert Stylus Company, UK.

The second option would be to get rid of the newer DJ type of Shure stylus and change to a JICO SAS stylus. That may result in a certain move away from the typical Shure sound, but the JICO SAS styli really work great in the old 1970's Shures.

Your description of the sound - sibilance and lack of details are typical problems with aftermarket styli - a genuine nude stylus should cure the problem and at the same time preserve the punchy dynamic Shure sound.

:)
 
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