David Gilmour or Rogers Water
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mike d
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Jeez....I hope so!
I was more entertained by the Amused to Death concert video than any post Waters Floyd Video. I thought Bramhall and White kind of embarrassed Gilmore. The concert just flowed better. Better performances, better tunes. Post Waters Floyd shows are too over the top. And Gilmores live performances are less than awe inspiring.
Waters wrote the best songs and had the best ideas.
Waters wrote the best songs and had the best ideas.
mad shadows
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Barrett - they should have changed name of the band when they fired him.
enzoazul
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They are both integral parts of what made Pink Floyd the greatest band ever, and it never would have been without both of them.
You need Waters' intellect,lyrics, spite and humanity and Gilmour's soul/feeling/musicianship, tone and simplicity to make it all work.
Gilmour's work without Waters is fraught with meaningless, directionless lyrics and sloppy songwriting and Waters' work without Gilmour is still awesome because of Jeff Beck! (I Love Amused To Death) .... but seriously... much of it is missing the beauty and feeling that's needed to balance Water's sharp wit and sarcasm. The Final Cut Is one of the most beautiful albums ever. Gilmour's guitar work is excellent on the Final Cut.
Pink Floyd in 94 without Waters was certainly a much much better concert than any Roger Waters concerts I've attended. Though I didn't catch this last Wall tour, so I may have missed out.
You need Waters' intellect,lyrics, spite and humanity and Gilmour's soul/feeling/musicianship, tone and simplicity to make it all work.
Gilmour's work without Waters is fraught with meaningless, directionless lyrics and sloppy songwriting and Waters' work without Gilmour is still awesome because of Jeff Beck! (I Love Amused To Death) .... but seriously... much of it is missing the beauty and feeling that's needed to balance Water's sharp wit and sarcasm. The Final Cut Is one of the most beautiful albums ever. Gilmour's guitar work is excellent on the Final Cut.
Pink Floyd in 94 without Waters was certainly a much much better concert than any Roger Waters concerts I've attended. Though I didn't catch this last Wall tour, so I may have missed out.
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oscar09
DUCK!
I went to the recent wall tour and was not impressed musically wise. They came twice to Houston and only went once and didn't go the second time. Sound was just bad and it was more of a visual show rather than a music concert. I assume they thought that everyone was going to be soooo into the visual show they were putting on that no one would pay attention to the music. I saw Roger waters on the "dark side of the moon" tour back in 2007 I think and THAT was a great concert. Not this recent wall tour. The visuals were cool tough. :yes:
mjdupuis
Be not rash
I love Gilmour's playing and singing. He certainly gave PF much of its sound if not its point of view.
Gilmour's number one strength was his ability to express the greatest range and intensity of emotions/responses with a minimum of notes. Every note superbly chosen and beautifully placed.
The true expression of less being more.
I saw Waters in San Jose in 2007's Dark Side of the Moon concert tour and was blown away. Best rock concert I've ever attended.
oscar09
DUCK!
:yes: That was one hell of a concert i must agree. I was amazed at how they played and nailed every single song. :yes:
The recent wall tour....
sort of like Lennon or McCartney. Personally I never liked McCartney (bubblegum pop crap imo) and would pick Lennon any day of the week , BUT
put them together in the same room and they could make magic.
Same with waters and gilmour. Collectively is when their genius shown thru. It does seem tho that Waters is the one who came up with the big picture ideas tho. listening to his solo work tho, I could be wrong and often am, it seems to me that he did better work when he had Gilmour etc around to bounce ideas around with.
Waters to Gilmour in a conversation that would never take place "You complete me" lol
put them together in the same room and they could make magic.
Same with waters and gilmour. Collectively is when their genius shown thru. It does seem tho that Waters is the one who came up with the big picture ideas tho. listening to his solo work tho, I could be wrong and often am, it seems to me that he did better work when he had Gilmour etc around to bounce ideas around with.
Waters to Gilmour in a conversation that would never take place "You complete me" lol
No doubt they made a great team. The band's history is pretty well documented. They probably peaked with Animals. At that time all of them band members were engaged and doing a great job. When the Wall was being made, the band members began to fall into other interests. The drummer got into formula on racing and the Richard Wright wasn't showing up to a lot of rehearsals. Waters still had a lot of dreams and ideas.
This can and does happen in many bands. You can't really blame Waters any more than the others.
That said, Rogers has always been the visionary and primary song writer. That doesn't take away from Gilmours formidable artistry as a guitarist though. The drummer and keyboardist were great too.
This can and does happen in many bands. You can't really blame Waters any more than the others.
That said, Rogers has always been the visionary and primary song writer. That doesn't take away from Gilmours formidable artistry as a guitarist though. The drummer and keyboardist were great too.
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You got that right:thmbsp:
Cogito
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No, not kidding. Even though Gilmour is in MY top three all time favorite guitar players, I would argue that he is not among the best of the rock genre. A few names immediately come to mind; Alvin Lee, Brian May, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, etc. All of which I argue, have better technical skills.
Spookyfoot
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I may skip going to the movies today and just watch how this plays out, let the fireworks begin
