Not ressurecting a thread. Just adding my two cents. I found this posting while poking around and remembered buying some of these quite a while ago. I will admit to jumping to conclusions. I got them home and decided they were probably white van and stuck them in the attic. The thread made me rethink them and I had some 10" surrounds lying around from a job I had decided against. Dug them out. Fixed them up, and I can safely declare that these are not white van. Their sound is very reminiscent of my dynamo a25's (of which I have two pair). These are the 880 version and if you find them cheaply, buy them and consider it a score. Very musical. I would call them underrated, if I could find anybody rating them. Right now they're hooked up to a Harmon kardon 330c and an aiwa 3800 cassette deck. The cassette is mad season's above.