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DC OFFSET question

Low gain is not your problem, however the transistor still might be bad.

1st guess is still oscillation

Time to check for heat just after the fuse blows:
1) A transistor is going into thermal runaway and will be hot
2) Oscillation with no speaker connected. The resistor in series with cap across output (10 ohm 1W) will be hot.

If fuse blows fast enough you still might not feel any heat in the 10 Ohm, but a transistor should be hot unless it has thermal failure just above ambient.

Food for thought before blowing another fuse.

Is the bulb still in series with one side of line?

A lower watt bulb will result in a lower current limit and may save the fuse. If you can stop the fuse from blowing check the 10 Ohm for heat (oscillation & may cook) then start shooting the transistors with freeze mist.

From one of your first posts I think the idle current was about 60ma at rail voltage which is about 4W. Try a 10 or 15W bulb. Remember it will take awhile for your caps to charge with that low a bulb.

I don't know if you have a lab power supply with adjustable current limit. I would start with 60 to 100ma if I was using a limiting supply in place of the internal bulk supplies.

The main filter caps still might have enough stored energy to blow fuse depending on cause. Since you are not driving speakers, put a resistor in series with one cap lead for open circuit testing only after trying a smaller bulb.

I saw a picture that had a partial of your test bench and you appear to like electronic stuff. Variable supplies abound and are cheap on eBay. You can series the outputs of multiple supplies and get higher voltages and are limited by the lowest amp range supply. If several have adjustable current limits you can use them as toppers.

Older lower bandwidth scopes are also cheap and are a good addition.
 
I put in the 2N3439/ 2N5416(one of pre/driver had unstable hFe readings Q5 0r Q6) and they work but the DC offset is still high . I have amp on a DLT and at turn on this side is -150mV . I have been comparing voltage readings with the other side and there the same so far( Not the rightside DC offset its -59mV on start ). I did find an error with my schematic. The 740 resistor on Base of Q3 is really a zener diode with band markings yellow, brown , violet . 4.1V ? I get -3.8v across it . I have let the offset go to -120mV when it starts to struggle (dim bulb tester in circuit) . Where should I be checking/comparing voltages any suggestions ? These are different from what I am use to . I have to use two meters to take readings as there no common chassis ground point . I use the center tap of the secondary of each transformer. I can find any over heating components, Thanks
 
I measured 9mVAC on the speaker terminals on the channel in question .My frequency counter read 80kHz
 
old diodes were black with color bands like resistors. 1n417 is a germanium diode. However if you read it (hopefully from the band closest to the end) as 1n714 it is a 10V 1/4W zener.

Germanium diodes have a lower forward drop than silicon about .4 compared to .6. If it is a diode it can be used to clamp reverse voltage at the base. A zener on the base doesn't make much sense.

9MV AC is nothing. If you had oscillations it would be volts and probably rail to rail volts.

I will look more at the schematic and think a bit.

Got a pair of radios on the bench so busy. Making a final swap / upgrade on the transmitter.

What wattage is the bulb and is it dim or bright?
 
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I'm using a 100watt bulb and it dims. The diode has yellow, brown, and a space then violet. It also has C D printed on it they made zener diodes so I thought it was for a fixed bias on Q3. I am comparing voltages readings from the "good" side but so far they are the same.
 
I mixed up the color bands .From the Cathode edge its violet, yellow, brown . .Its across the +/-67v rails. I'm wondering if this could be leaking and effecting Q3's behavior ?
 
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I went with plan B and bought and installed the eBay amp boards. I need to start a new thread for these amps. This is thread is not relevant anymore.
 
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