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Decent System: Integrated Amp, TT, CD, Speakers for $1500-2500?

Bushikan

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My good friend in his 70s wants me to buy for him and his wife a “decent stereo” (integrated amp/receiver with phono stage; TT, CDP, and speakers) for $1500-2500. They don’t have any interest in streaming.

It could be vintage/used, as long as it’s dependable, reliable. It’s possible I could get him to spend more (he can definitely afford to), but I want to try to stick within his proposed budget.

They’ve many times heard and like my system: McIntosh tubes/Klipschorns/TT/CDP. But they want a “good, small, modest” system.

They only listen to CDs and 33.3 LPs—mostly as background music. The TT should come with a cartridge, be plug-and-play, and easy to use. The speakers should be detached bookshelf size or small floor-standers.

He already purchased some kind of $200-300 compact unit with a built-in TT and attached speakers that he realizes sounds like utter crap. They hate it and no longer turn it on.

They listen to jazz and classical, if that matters. Their listening area is an old farmhouse living room (20’ x 30’). It has wood floors, a tall central peaked cathedral ceiling, and opens into a low, 40’-long perpendicular dining room and kitchen on one side (the end where the stereo will be) and a full-length low, shallow book alcove along the other side. (The space is peculiar and not ideal.) But we aren’t concerned here with a sweet spot.

They don’t generally ever listen loudly. Still, I want to get them very efficient speakers because he has complained that his current system can’t be turned up at all.

If anyone has any suggestions (ease of use is paramount), please let me know. He’d probably prefer an all-in-one compact unit, if there’s something good out there(?), but if I bring him components and set them up for him, that will be fine. He’s deferring completely to my judgment.

The amp and CDP will have to stack (the TT could sit separately), but it will all be placed on two Modernist Alvar Aalto bent plywood side tables, which are beautiful but not the most seriously solid and best furniture for a TT. If footfalls prove this unworkable, I’m sure I can convince them to get more solid furniture for the TT.

Thank you, all, in advance!
 
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If it was me, I would never subject someone like that to vintage equipment. Too much time and potential issues are involved to take a chance on, unless they knew exactly what they wanted. Here are a few new items I'd recommend checking out. Buy from a respected retailer and avoid open box or scratch & dent units.

Integrated Amps
Yamaha A-S501
Emotiva BasX TA1

CD Players
Yamaha CD-S303
Cambridge Audio AXC35

Turntables
Audio-Technica AT-LP3XBT

Speakers
Wharfedale EVO4.3
GoldenEar BRX
 
I would lean towards to new stuff, remote and auto turntable.

Yamaha A-S701 $500 on Adorama
Audio Technica AT-LP70X on Amazon $200
Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 on Amazon $400
Yamaha CD-S303 Cd player on Amazon $380

If it was me, I would never subject someone like that to vintage equipment. Too much time and potential issues are involved to take a chance on, unless they knew exactly what they wanted. Here are a few new items I'd recommend checking out. Buy from a respected retailer and avoid open box or scratch & dent units.

Integrated Amps
Yamaha A-S501
Emotiva BasX TA1

CD Players
Yamaha CD-S303
Cambridge Audio AXC35

Turntables
Audio-Technica AT-LP3XBT

Speakers
Wharfedale EVO4.3
GoldenEar BRX
You guys seem to know your stuff but @jayvis why would you want to go with a wireless turntable? Looks like potential functional and reliability issues to me but you may have your own rational for doing so.
 
Good advice above for sure.

For me, the AT 120xUSB table is the best entry level option, a step up from the lower ATs, as long as they can live with all-manual operation. Add an AT Microline stylus for even better sound and longer life. About $425 all told. If they want auto-return, I think there are still some current options available.

Current Onkyo, Yamaha CD deck options. All in the $300 - 400 range.

The Elac Debut speakers are good choices - you can sometimes get those on sale. I think they just came out with new models? The 2.0 sound good, haven't read review of the new ones yet. The 2.0 speakers might get price drops if new models out?

Either Yamaha AS-501 or AS-701 a solid choice for an all in one unit.

Yeah, don't mess with vintage - something will blow and they won't be happy.

This would all roll up to the neighborhood of $1800 depending on amp/receiver choice.
 
You guys seem to know your stuff but @jayvis why would you want to go with a wireless turntable? Looks like potential functional and reliability issues to me but you may have your own rational for doing so.
The turntable I recommended has Bluetooth capability if you choose to use it. It also comes with a stereo RCA cable for conventional hook up to a receiver or integrated amp.
 
I would lean towards to new stuff, remote and auto turntable.

Yamaha A-S701 $500 on Adorama
Audio Technica AT-LP70X on Amazon $200
Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 on Amazon $400
Yamaha CD-S303 Cd player on Amazon $380
I’m thinking similarly, but I’d upsell on three points:

1) To me, the A-S801 ($900 retail) is where the Yamaha line heats up. If the user is a techie, I might suggest the WiiM Amp ($300) as a wildcard.

2) I don’t mean to offend the many happy AT-LP70X owners, but at the OP’s budget, this is an intolerably crappy turntable. Since an included cartridge is a must-have, we’ll skip over the AT-LP120 family. OP is going to want to spend at least $500 on a new TT/cartridge combo. I’d recommend the Technics SL-1500C at $1100. Don’t forget LP/stylus cleaning supplies and record sleeves (and aspire to a RCM down the road).

3) By the time you purchase truly worthy set of stands for the Elacs, you’re fairly close to the cost of a set of towers. Especially in the mid-price tier, stand-mounts are a fool’s bargain.

Finally, I’d downsell on the CD player. The CD-S303 matches the amp’s aesthetics, but not its quality. I’d look at the FiiO DM13 ($180) or else spend similar money on a gently-used TOTL DVD player, circa 2000-2010.
 
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Stack the amp on top of the CD player. Better ventilation, and the weight will stabilize the CD player a bit from vibrations.
 
I’m thinking similarly, but I’d upsell on three points:

1) To me, the A-S801 ($900 retail) is where the Yamaha line heats up. If the user is a techie, I might suggest the WiiM Amp ($300) as a wildcard.

2) I don’t mean to offend the many happy AT-LP70X owners, but at the OP’s budget, this is an intolerably crappy turntable. Since an included cartridge is a must-have, we’ll skip over the AT-LP120 family. OP is going to want to spend at least $500 on a new TT/cartridge combo. I’d recommend the Technics SL-1500C at $1100. Don’t forget LP/stylus cleaning supplies and record sleeves (and aspire to a RCM down the road).

3) By the time you purchase truly worthy set of stands for the Elacs, you’re fairly close to the cost of a set of towers. Especially in the mid-price tier, stand-mounts are a fool’s bargain.
Last I knew, the 120xUSB table comes with a the 95 elliptical cartridge, which can be used as is, or the ML stylus swapped in with no change to the weight settings.

My new 120 table with the cartridge was about $240 online, three years ago.

Seems like an $1100 Technics would be a bit of overkill for situ as presented...? A good table, for sure, but this user would probably trade off for more automation if anything.
 
Do they listen to radio? I think the Wiim might be frustrating for them. Depend on how tech savvy they are.

Cambridge Audio AX35 for $400? Match the ACX35 cd player for $400?
 
integrated amp/receiver with phono stage; TT, CDP, and speakers) for $1500-2500
That's a VERY generous budget for a "modest system" to be used for B/G music.

Speakers: https://www.crutchfield.com/p_970DB52/ELAC-Debut-2-0-B5-2.html?tp=186 $329.
Receiver: https://www.crutchfield.com/p_022RN303/Yamaha-R-N303.html?tp=47041 $329.
CDP: https://www.crutchfield.com/p_779AXC35/Cambridge-Audio-AXC35.html?tp=197 $399.
TT: https://www.crutchfield.com/p_252T1PB/Pro-Ject-T1-High-gloss-Black.html?tp=75887 $399.
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$1460.00 All done. Simple, sufficient for the use expected, reliable.
 
Thank you! These thoughtful, helpful, knowledgeable, prompt, and relevant responses to my query serve to reaffirm for me why I frequent AK and am honored to be part of this generous community.

And on Labor Day, no less…

I honestly didn’t really expect any serious response until tomorrow. Doesn’t anyone have some hot dogs and beer to consume?
 
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No. But they're all manual operation. When you said that they wanted one that was easy to use, I immediately thought of full or semi-automatic.
Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn’t noticed that Pro-Jects were all manual. I think they should have a fully or semi-automatic TT.
 
Stack the amp on top of the CD player. Better ventilation, and the weight will stabilize the CD player a bit from vibrations.
Be careful with that arrangement. My Sony CD player/recorder door would not open because I had a turntable and another CD player stacked on top of it. Once I removed them the Sony door opened freely.
 
This is a fun read, and it is wonderful @Bushikan that you have friends that trust your knowledge and input enough to let you spend their money on a nice system. There are some great suggestions for gear, I would only add that maybe you could show them images of each piece gear you intend for them. Sometimes the WAF factor can kick in. Sometimes a piece REALLY grabs you, or them. Aesthetics and all that might entail.
Good luck! For sure keep us posted, especially a 3 month follow up or something like that
 
This is a fun read, and it is wonderful @Bushikan that you have friends that trust your knowledge and input enough to let you spend their money on a nice system. There are some great suggestions for gear, I would only add that maybe you could show them images of each piece gear you intend for them. Sometimes the WAF factor can kick in. Sometimes a piece REALLY grabs you, or them. Aesthetics and all that might entail.
Good luck! For sure keep us posted, especially a 3 month follow up or something like that
Great suggestion. They’re very into aesthetics. Thanks.
 
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