Denon DP80 vs Technics SL1200 mk3- any difference with the same tonearm???
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best-groove
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Beautiful dog.
KentTeffeteller
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Personally, I think the wood plinth the Denons are mounted in is a weakness in terms of isolation. I like the Denon motor, but wonder what a different plinth would bring to the Denon's performance.
Kit Carson
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Kent Denon had layered wood plinths but I chose to go with a VPI sprung plinth like Mr. Pig had for his DP-75. Between the plinth, motor unit and tonearm I estimate about 70 pounds total weight. On top of that I placed the table on a vintage large Target wall shelf, probably overkill but there is total isolation from any type of vibration and I can hear the difference. Denon also offered large/heavy consoles for professional applications, Harry/VPI has one of the Denon consoles in his showroom.
Hi all, resuming this stunning thread only to ask what do you think on a comparison between the Denon DP-80 and the Pioneer Exclusive P10. Beside the price (almost double, but similar to the Technics SP-10 MK2) there are so many differences between the two TT? The P10 worths the money?
Havent tried a P10 but I went from a DP-80 to a P3a. Speed consistency similar. P3a much more torque and tiny bit better WOW. Love the P3a arm but you can put almost any arm on the DP80. P3a super insulated plinth. You can bang on it while playing an lp with no effect on sound. Zero feedback from speakers no matter how loud, with P3a. Although never had issues with the DP80.
The DP80 would be much easier to work on if that matters. P10 could be extremely difficult to repair.
The DP80 would be much easier to work on if that matters. P10 could be extremely difficult to repair.
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best-groove
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Hi Mark,
finally i bouhgt a Denon DP80 with DK300 Panzerholtz Plynth, and a Denon DA-309 tonearm. Since I'm in EU i'll need a transformer, is it a "step down" one?
thanks again,
- Alex
Nice setup. I am guessing your wall outlets are 240V. You will need to step down to100.
Mark is right, and as you sound unfamiliar with what you need, make sure that you get a transformer that steps down to 100V, not 110V or something higher. 100V is the Japan (and only Japan) mains voltage. Of course, confirm on your turntable itself that this is the voltage you need, though the DP80 was Japan-only anyway, as far as I know., so would have been designed for Japan-only voltage input. The frequency will be fine, and it'll probably be marked 50-60 Hz somewhere on the turntable. However, there's a switch under the platter, so make sure that is set to 50 Hz. By default, it probably will be, but models shipped to or retailed in central/western Japan are likely to have been set to 60Hz, and may also have a 60Hz sticker applied on them. You can ignore the sticker (or remove it), just set the switch to your mains frequency.
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Thank you, how many watt must I search for? I saw some step down but I can't choose about power... Denon is approx 9w but I think i should go higher, don't know how much...
EDIT: this one could be the right one?
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You should go higher than 8W, but you don't need to go crazy. Though I'm not sure you'd find much below 50W anyway. The transformer you showed might be fine: it seems to be a Japanese company that's been around since the 1960s. I've been using Nissyo. I'm not exactly a transformer snob, and I think at the time I just picked up a couple in Akihabara because I needed to run my 220V gear in Japan, and Nissyo was what the shop happened to have. But turns out that a lot of people like them anyway, I like the form factor, and if I had to buy again, that's what I'd get, especially for a turntable as worthy as a DP80. However, I have no particular grounds for rejecting any other maker, including cheap Chinese ones. I don't know enough about them.
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KentTeffeteller
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I had to condemn 3 DP-80 turntables to parts queens due to the magnetic strip getting weak. I say this as someone who loves the DP-80.
hope I'll not to be the fourth
cafe latte
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I have had people on forums try to tell me tapes and magnetic strip lasts forever, but i have had tapes degrade and my Denon is dead due to a weak strip and you have 3 dead ones so it is an issue.
One of the most common issues with Denon and advice given is them running super fast and adjusting the head closer to fix it.
Eventually you can't get the head any closer to get it working again and that was mine.
Chris
autoquote, I'm eating all the 43 pages of the Denon DP80 & DP75 OC and I'm finding almost all the answers to my doubts. And the Kashimura is one of the most used transformers, luckilyThank you, how many watt must I search for? I saw some step down but I can't choose about power... Denon is approx 9w but I think i should go higher, don't know how much...
EDIT: this one could be the right one?
Kashimura TI-34 Step Down Transformer 220-240V to 100V 70w max - J026 | eBay
Le migliori offerte per Kashimura TI-34 Step Down Transformer 220-240V to 100V 70w max - J026 sono su eBay ✓ Confronta prezzi e caratteristiche di prodotti nuovi e usati ✓ Molti articoli con consegna gratis!www.ebay.it
