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It seems obvious but suppose it will continue to improve, not sure that's actually possible, to come across as real. I might still want the product but the 'person' in the ad is obviously not real, at least to me.
diyAudio is =banning= all A.I. text and photos from posts. Should Audiokarma?
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While @GChief seems intent on passively dismissing my points by giving laughing reactions, and characterizing my replies as "entertaining" (I'll channel Joe Pesci here, ala Goodfellas "what, am I here to amuse you?"), I'd challenge him to go ask an AI a self evidently stupid question that cannot have a correct, factual answer, and see what he gets back from the AI in response. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Because I'll lay even odds he won't get back an "I don't know" or similar response. The AI model is programmed to give an answer even when it doesn't have one. Excepting certain impolite and hot button issues, of course, which are frequently suppressed from discussion by design. Again, an AI that tells you "I can't answer that", even when that is the only correct answer it can give based on it's dataset, has no utility, and therefore cannot be monetized. No one is going to pay for that, so it cannot be allowed to happen. So, it will lie, even more prolifically than a human would.
The masses will, however, pay for multiple paragraphs of verbose slop, because they think it sounds intelligent. Based on the writing skills of so many people now, it probably does sound pretty smart. So, the masses buy more garbage, and big tech profits handsomely. Mission accomplished. At least it's output is all ephemeral, so it won't be clogging up landfills.
Meanwhile, may I suggest there is plenty of AI generated content elsewhere online - many thousands of hours worth on YouTube alone - that those who disagree with my point of view may find far more entertaining than my postings, since they seem to be all about worshipping the AI and bagging on the naysayers. The best news is that you can get your very own AI to post marginally witty retorts here, so you won't have to waste your time typing them yourselves. Progress!
Guess I'll see you all over at the Soylent Green rendering plant.
Because I'll lay even odds he won't get back an "I don't know" or similar response. The AI model is programmed to give an answer even when it doesn't have one. Excepting certain impolite and hot button issues, of course, which are frequently suppressed from discussion by design. Again, an AI that tells you "I can't answer that", even when that is the only correct answer it can give based on it's dataset, has no utility, and therefore cannot be monetized. No one is going to pay for that, so it cannot be allowed to happen. So, it will lie, even more prolifically than a human would.
The masses will, however, pay for multiple paragraphs of verbose slop, because they think it sounds intelligent. Based on the writing skills of so many people now, it probably does sound pretty smart. So, the masses buy more garbage, and big tech profits handsomely. Mission accomplished. At least it's output is all ephemeral, so it won't be clogging up landfills.
Meanwhile, may I suggest there is plenty of AI generated content elsewhere online - many thousands of hours worth on YouTube alone - that those who disagree with my point of view may find far more entertaining than my postings, since they seem to be all about worshipping the AI and bagging on the naysayers. The best news is that you can get your very own AI to post marginally witty retorts here, so you won't have to waste your time typing them yourselves. Progress!
Guess I'll see you all over at the Soylent Green rendering plant.
Or, perhaps, AI will soon evolve to the point that it will recognize an impossible to answer "trick" question such as those, and reply; "Since hens do not have teeth, you will not find them anywhere" and "Since a rocking horse is an inanimate object, it will not produce droppings"
My 1980s Intel 80286 based computer seemed laughable by today's standards too. Where do we think AI is gonna be in 40 odd years? My guess is that far sooner than that, AI will be very difficult to discern from human intelligence.
OK, so I asked AI "where can I find hen's teeth", , , and, it's response appears to be far more detailed than a simple "I cannot answer that"......
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You can't find hen's teeth in the literal sense because hens don't have teeth; the phrase "hen's teeth" is an idiom meaning something is extremely rare or non-existent, comparable to "when pigs fly". While a very small, tooth-like structure called a "egg tooth" is found on a chick's beak to help it hatch, it is not a true tooth and is not a hen's tooth
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You can't find hen's teeth in the literal sense because hens don't have teeth; the phrase "hen's teeth" is an idiom meaning something is extremely rare or non-existent, comparable to "when pigs fly". While a very small, tooth-like structure called a "egg tooth" is found on a chick's beak to help it hatch, it is not a true tooth and is not a hen's tooth
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Well, the question might be where do we think we'll be in forty odd years. My guess, in this line of guessing, is that AI is not involved with human intelligence except during the intervening period.
Oh, and, just so we all know, AI is on to the "rocking Horse Droppings" trick question as well 
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You can't find actual rocking horse droppings because they don't exist; "rocking horse ****" is a vulgar idiom for something extremely rare or scarce, and you might find novelty items like rocking horse poop on e-commerce sites like Etsy or eBay.
From Etsy, listed as "Model Horse Poop";
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You can't find actual rocking horse droppings because they don't exist; "rocking horse ****" is a vulgar idiom for something extremely rare or scarce, and you might find novelty items like rocking horse poop on e-commerce sites like Etsy or eBay.
From Etsy, listed as "Model Horse Poop";
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AI talks as though it's seen every hen there is to see. It is rare but hell, I've seen 'em. Danged things will bite ya with 'em too. And flying pigs, not saying they do but when they do its really something to behold.
Just want to add to the data base.
And, all of this is a diversion from the thread's title question; "Should AK ban AI"
My opinion is that at this point, it should be watched closely. I do believe that for the time being AI technical content posted by a real human should be vetted by that real life human poster for accuracy. But as to things like AI memes in the off topic areas, well that cat has escaped the bag some time ago, so that point is essentially moot.
Thus far, I have not seen any evidence of an entirely AI AK member posting here without human involvement, so when that day comes we will revisit this discussion.
Thank You all for your participation, and if any of you see an entirely AI AK member begin posting, let me know and we'll pick this discussion back up where it left off.....
My opinion is that at this point, it should be watched closely. I do believe that for the time being AI technical content posted by a real human should be vetted by that real life human poster for accuracy. But as to things like AI memes in the off topic areas, well that cat has escaped the bag some time ago, so that point is essentially moot.
Thus far, I have not seen any evidence of an entirely AI AK member posting here without human involvement, so when that day comes we will revisit this discussion.
Thank You all for your participation, and if any of you see an entirely AI AK member begin posting, let me know and we'll pick this discussion back up where it left off.....
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