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Dream Theater: Systematic Chaos

avguytx said:
I just enjoy the music. I could care less about what one band thinks about the other. It's reminiscent of the late 80's and 90's crap with Guns & Roses (which I just hate), Motley Crue, and other bands like that. It's just like the celebrity world of one bashing another. I don't read the tabloids...I don't care. I just enjoy the music. :music:

As far as Rush goes, they are a great band but I haven't bought anything after Moving Pictures I think. Something about Geddy Lee's voice just gets on my nerves...like Axl Rose's but I can't listen to ANY GNR (Slash is ok, though). But they ARE a great band (Rush I mean) no matter what. Very talented. I grew up jamming on 2112, Moving Pictures, etc.

But I do love me some Dream Theater when the crankin' time is upon me!
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I agree. I just love the music.
I also love Liquid Tension Experiment :D
 
I'm a big DT fan and have all of their CDs except this one. I heard the song "The Dark Eternal Night". That song freakin rocks!!

I am buying the CD tonight. So far, I have liked all of their stuff.

I really love prog metal.
 
Ivorytooth said:
I'm a big DT fan and have all of their CDs except this one. I heard the song "The Dark Eternal Night". That song freakin rocks!!

I am buying the CD tonight. So far, I have liked all of their stuff.

I really love prog metal.
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You'll enjoy it, You also will get a 5.1 disc in the same sleeve, A very good
SACD, Nice tone, And nothing fancy where the producer tries to "Show" you
that it's multi-channel. BTW, Portnoy's drumming is Crazy good on the disc.
 
Ive got to agree with you on portnoy too bad people with so much talent forget where they really came from. Although hes an excellant musician his attitude of cockiness makes him only 1/2as good as he seems to think he is.w
What a drag cause the bands actually pretty darn good!
 
Just got real busy for a bit there. Still busy, but I couldn't keep myself away.

So answer the question: what Dream Theater release is available on SACD?
 
Dusty Chalk said:
Just got real busy for a bit there. Still busy, but I couldn't keep myself away.

So answer the question: what Dream Theater release is available on SACD?
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The one being reviewed, Systematic Chaos. :)

I finally got to listen to it today. I love it!! Them and Fates Warning are my fave prog metal bands.
 
Ahh...seeing this thread reminded me that I needed to listen to this CD again. I think I go thru it (and other DT) on a daily basis. Good stuff....
 
Zeromancer said:
You should also check out Evergrey
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I will do that.

Forsaken is now my favorite song on this CD. The music just fits the lyrics perfectly. I can't explain it, it just fits and sets the right atmosphere for the story being told.

Petrucci really outdid himself on the lyrics on this song and The Dark Eternal Night.
 
just reading the whole interview this guy sounds like an ungrateful pretentious asswipe one second and then a seemingly nice guy and remembering his place in the next. He sounds like a schizo. This guy is so very precious, what a douche. He talks like just another spoiled immature kid/rockstar/wannabe putting down his superiors. That's not class, and doesn't come off as one serious about musical artistry.)

That's entirely hypocritical. (No wonder he's a recovering alcoholic, he had to use something to drown all of that guilt until he lost all humility and became a megalomanic self professed incredible drummer and drummer/music critic).
Anyway, didn't mean to steal the thread, and this is all jmho anyway and perhaps I'm entirely wrong so don't take offense anyone! :smoke:
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So... You colorfully describe Mr Portnoy as an Asswipe, Schizo, Douche, Recovering Alcoholic and Meglomaniac? Do you have any quotes from Mr. Portnoy that go this far?

Talk about hypocritical.

Can we please stick to topic - Review of the latest DT release.
 
AudioAGAPE said:
Ive got to agree with you on portnoy too bad people with so much talent forget where they really came from. Although hes an excellant musician his attitude of cockiness makes him only 1/2as good as he seems to think he is.w
What a drag cause the bands actually pretty darn good!
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Not to start all this up again, but Portnoy recently went to a Rush concert on this tour and had this to say about it:


"I was indeed at the Camden show.

(In fact, I was there for most of the afternoon as Neil Peart was gracious enough to invite me down for soundcheck to say hello and check out his new kit.)

The show was really great.

I really loved the setlist....when I initially saw it on paper, I wasn't that impressed - but then hearing all of the songs live, it really clicked how great the song selection was.

Of course being partial to the older stuff, I was most excited to hear Entre Nous, Circumstances, Bangkok and Digital Man...but even some of my other favorites that I have seen so many times before like Witch Hunt, Subdivisions and Natural Science sounded better than ever! And I really thought all of the new material really came alive on stage and gave me a whole new level of appreciation for them... They still put on one hell of a show!! 2 thumbs way up!"

MP

Now THAT'S better! :thmbsp: :D

It sounds like maybe he's started to grow up and realize that Rush has made great (and much more mature and sophisticated) songs past the late 70's and early 80's (hey, there's nothing wrong with their more basic hard rock and art rock, it's great, but they've grown beyond that)...like every, (yes every!) song on Snakes and Arrows which may be my favorite Rush album ever, and that says a lot, a whole hell of a lot, as I've been listening to every single one of them for 15 years now and like/love all of them!

I think he just actually heard many "newer" (past mid-80's) songs at the concert for the first time in awhile (and maybe some for the first time ever) and liked them and started to understand that maybe he should had listened to the songs from that last 20 odd years more before just dismissing all of those years of Rush's output as he has done (the "nothing worthwhile since '82" crap). For instance, I'm sure when SnA came out he didn't even bother to listen to it, but once he was at the concert and heard them play 9 songs from it, he apparently liked the songs: "...all of the new material really came alive on stage and gave me a whole new level of appreciation for them." Well, duh: you got to give it chance before just disregarding it! You may find out you like it! :D

And with that in mind, I'm still withholding judgement on DT and PT; I know I like some of their stuff, but I haven't heard enough of it yet and many times over to really say!
 
Are we back to the saga of Rush vs Dream Theater and who said what? Who gives a crap? I thought this thread was about DT...not about what one drummer thinks about another before someone will listen to them. Will I be burned at the stake because I don't care for Rush and have thought that they really haven't done anything worth buying since Moving Pictures. I've tried listening to the newer stuff as a good friend of mine in Tulsa is a Rush freak to the end and owns everything. It's tolerable but not my style. I may own about 3 or 4 Rush LP/CD's and have a great respect for them but they aren't something I can listen to on a daily basis. Geddy Lee's voice will eventually get on my nerves.

But again...this thread is titled "Dream Theater: Systematic Chaos". Make another thread if you want to discuss Portnoy and put Peart on the proverbial pedestal and then maybe non Rush fans can come in there and hijack it.

Just my $.02, of course.
 
Yeah, really dude, quit thread-crapping already.

I finally listened to Systematic Chaos the other night, and have to admit to thoroughly enjoying it. I still think Scenes from a Memory is the best thing they've ever done, but I definitely enjoyed it more than Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, and it may be the best thing they've done since Scenes... (I remember really liking Falling Into Infinity, but I'd have to go back and listen -- IIRC, it's a completely different album).
 
To everyone, especially the thread starter and all the other's who have not felt the need to insult me personally (I did no such thing to anyone in here and will hardly bother to reply to those who have done so to me) just because I may have criticized a band they like (and others have agreed with my assessments, but yet they escape criticism while I am singled out), sorry if I was going off topic, I just thought we were allowed and even encouraged to discuss all aspects of a band in a thread about said band, even if those things may be somewhat negative. I don't see the harm in a free discussion of, well, anything, much less of a band.

If admin wishes to delete all of my posts in here than that is totally fine with me. Either way, I'm out, and again, sorry to all the friendly and good posters in here! :thmbsp:
 
Permanent Waves said:
To everyone, especially the thread starter and all the other's who have not felt the need to insult me personally (I did no such thing to anyone in here and will hardly bother to reply to those who have done so to me) just because I may have criticized a band they like (and others have agreed with my assessments, but yet they escape criticism while I am singled out), sorry if I was going off topic, I just thought we were allowed and even encouraged to discuss all aspects of a band in a thread about said band, even if those things may be somewhat negative. I don't see the harm in a free discussion of, well, anything, much less of a band.

If admin wishes to delete all of my posts in here than that is totally fine with me. Either way, I'm out, and again, sorry to all the friendly and good posters in here! :thmbsp:
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As far as I concerned, No harm, No foul, If I don't care for an artist, I don't use my hard earned cash to buy there music. However the music review forum is, (For Me), To give a heads up whats out there (Or be released shortly), Of the style of music I listen to, And maybe someone will want to run out and buy it. The off topic forum may be a better place to vent, If you get my drift.
Should check out the Disc, It Ain't bad.:yes:
 
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